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Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - fazersharp - 04-04-21
(04-04-21, 08:25 AM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg324265#msg324265 date=1617520328]
If anyone is even remotely concerned about the apparent chance of blood clotting with the AZ vaccine, why not cover the bases and take a course of Omega 3 capsules for a month or so to put the mind, and body, at rest?
A very small dose of Aspirin is an alternative for the vegans out there BUT be warned that Aspirin can have side effects as i found out myself, so you'd need a doctor to give you the go ahead on that one.
I'm not suggesting either are necessary, it's just that some people worry more than others, especially with the media making a meal of things, so why not do something about it to counteract any miniscule possibility of a blood clot?
From what I read it's a smaller chance of blit clot than women get from taking the contraception pill
[/quote]Wait a minute, Germany has found that the blood clotting mainly affects younger women. Could it be these same woman are also taking a contraception pill and doubling the clot risk. Germany have started on the younger generations which is also why they have higher clot cases than we do.
Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - darrsi - 04-04-21
(04-04-21, 08:25 AM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg324265#msg324265 date=1617520328]
If anyone is even remotely concerned about the apparent chance of blood clotting with the AZ vaccine, why not cover the bases and take a course of Omega 3 capsules for a month or so to put the mind, and body, at rest?
A very small dose of Aspirin is an alternative for the vegans out there BUT be warned that Aspirin can have side effects as i found out myself, so you'd need a doctor to give you the go ahead on that one.
I'm not suggesting either are necessary, it's just that some people worry more than others, especially with the media making a meal of things, so why not do something about it to counteract any miniscule possibility of a blood clot?
From what I read it's a smaller chance of blit clot than women get from taking the contraception pill ?♂️ probably more risk in taking the omega 3 haha
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Doesn't put people off flying either.
Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - Dudeofrude - 05-04-21
(04-04-21, 07:05 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Dudeofrude link=topic=26604.msg324266#msg324266 date=1617521117]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg324265#msg324265 date=1617520328]
If anyone is even remotely concerned about the apparent chance of blood clotting with the AZ vaccine, why not cover the bases and take a course of Omega 3 capsules for a month or so to put the mind, and body, at rest?
A very small dose of Aspirin is an alternative for the vegans out there BUT be warned that Aspirin can have side effects as i found out myself, so you'd need a doctor to give you the go ahead on that one.
I'm not suggesting either are necessary, it's just that some people worry more than others, especially with the media making a meal of things, so why not do something about it to counteract any miniscule possibility of a blood clot?
From what I read it's a smaller chance of blit clot than women get from taking the contraception pill ?♂️ probably more risk in taking the omega 3 haha
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Doesn't put people off flying either.
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Probably because most people don't realise there is a risk from flying. If a bunch of numpty idiots started an online campaign warning against it and spreading overhyped reports with skewed views then I'm sure there would be a lot more people that wouldnt fly and would be blaming Bill Gates or the government for making air travel unsafe deliberately. Saying its all one big conspiracy to control the population blah blah blah
That's the problem with the modern technological age, the village idiots have learnt to use the Internet ?
Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - Grahamm - 05-04-21
(05-04-21, 10:06 AM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Probably because most people don't realise there is a risk from flying. If a bunch of numpty idiots started an online campaign warning against it and spreading overhyped reports with skewed views then I'm sure there would be a lot more people that wouldnt fly
Every time there's a dramatic plane or rail crash you get people saying "I'm not going to fly/ go by train, I'd prefer to drive".
What they don't realise is that the risks of dying in a car crash (the number of deaths per passenger mile ) are much greater than that of a train or plane, eg in 2019 there were 1,752 reported road deaths in the UK and 153,158 KSI casualties in reported road traffic accidents, but most of those are never headline news unless they're really spectacular.
This gives people a biased view of the facts, just as saying "There's been X many cases of blood clots from this vaccine" don't make clear that the odds are around one in a million, as opposed to the one in a thousand or shorter odds of having a serious/ fatal case of COVID.
Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - BBROWN1664 - 05-04-21
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Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - darrsi - 05-04-21
(05-04-21, 12:23 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Dudeofrude link=topic=26604.msg324284#msg324284 date=1617613590]
Probably because most people don't realise there is a risk from flying. If a bunch of numpty idiots started an online campaign warning against it and spreading overhyped reports with skewed views then I'm sure there would be a lot more people that wouldnt fly
Every time there's a dramatic plane or rail crash you get people saying "I'm not going to fly/ go by train, I'd prefer to drive".
What they don't realise is that the risks of dying in a car crash (the number of deaths per passenger mile ) are much greater than that of a train or plane, eg in 2019 there were 1,752 reported road deaths in the UK and 153,158 KSI casualties in reported road traffic accidents, but most of those are never headline news unless they're really spectacular.
This gives people a biased view of the facts, just as saying "There's been X many cases of blood clots from this vaccine" don't make clear that the odds are around one in a million, as opposed to the one in a thousand or shorter odds of having a serious/ fatal case of COVID.
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Add to that the chance of coincidence as well.
These same people may have been heading towards a blood clot for whatever reason anyway, and it's just coincidental that they happened to have a jab around the same time, so it's a perfect scapegoat to use.
Re: The Covid thread incl a poll - fazersharp - 08-04-21
Heard immunity to be reached on Monday.-- Sky News --- Real-time modelling carried out by University College London indicates the UK should pass the critical threshold where the proportion of people who have protection against the virus either through vaccination, previous infection or natural immunity will hit 73.4% on Monday, 12 April.
Meanwhile government ministers desperately trying to down play it.
Re: The Covid thread - YamFazFan - 22-04-21
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Re: The Covid thread - YamFazFan - 23-04-21
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Re: The Covid thread - agricola - 23-04-21
Got minor surgery on Tuesday, for long standing re-occurring Trigger Finger problem. Monday was booked at Donington for first trackday of the year, so when the surgery letter dropped into the letter box, I thought the planets were aligning nicely. Trackday then surgery. But no. Turns out ive to have a Covid swab on Saturday, then self isolate until Tuesdau morning. Ive cancelled the trackday and will re-book later once healed. Annoying thing is, I suspect some would have just ignored the isolation period and gone ahead with the trackday, but I'm doing it by the book
Re: The Covid thread - fazersharp - 23-04-21
(23-04-21, 05:59 PM)agricola link Wrote: Got minor surgery on Tuesday, for long standing re-occurring Trigger Finger problem. Monday was booked at Donington for first trackday of the year, so when the surgery letter dropped into the letter box, I thought the planets were aligning nicely. Trackday then surgery. But no. Turns out ive to have a Covid swab on Saturday, then self isolate until Tuesdau morning. Ive cancelled the trackday and will re-book later once healed. Annoying thing is, I suspect some would have just ignored the isolation period and gone ahead with the trackday, but I'm doing it by the bookback before covid i had a nose job ‐‐to improve airway (honesty). And I had to shower in a special shower gel that kills MRSA also during the pre assessment I had to provide a swab of my perinanal area - I had to focing ask :lol . All for checking for mrsa. It seems now they do not care about mrsa.
Re: The Covid thread - agricola - 24-04-21
(23-04-21, 09:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=26604.msg324700#msg324700 date=1619197167]back before covid i had a nose job ‐‐to improve airway (honesty). And I had to shower in a special shower gel that kills MRSA also during the pre assessment I had to provide a swab of my perinanal area - I had to focing ask :lol . All for checking for mrsa. It seems now they do not care about mrsa.
Got minor surgery on Tuesday, for long standing re-occurring Trigger Finger problem. Monday was booked at Donington for first trackday of the year, so when the surgery letter dropped into the letter box, I thought the planets were aligning nicely. Trackday then surgery. But no. Turns out ive to have a Covid swab on Saturday, then self isolate until Tuesdau morning. Ive cancelled the trackday and will re-book later once healed. Annoying thing is, I suspect some would have just ignored the isolation period and gone ahead with the trackday, but I'm doing it by the book
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And so it begins. Turned up for the swab test this morning, turns out that the surgery now looks like being cancelled because the second Covid vac is due on the 1st May, so not seven days between the two, as stipulated and required by the Health Authority. So, trackday cancelled, surgery likely to be cancelled and back on the waiting list, no doubt to be re-scheduled when I'm going on holiday or to clash with the other trackdays booked this summer. Only chance to smooth this out is if I can get the 2nd Covid jab put back a couple of days on Monday morning :groan
Re: The Covid thread - agricola - 26-04-21
(24-04-21, 09:58 AM)agricola link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg324709#msg324709 date=1619210629]back before covid i had a nose job ‐‐to improve airway (honesty). And I had to shower in a special shower gel that kills MRSA also during the pre assessment I had to provide a swab of my perinanal area - I had to focing ask :lol . All for checking for mrsa. It seems now they do not care about mrsa.
[quote author=agricola link=topic=26604.msg324700#msg324700 date=1619197167]
Got minor surgery on Tuesday, for long standing re-occurring Trigger Finger problem. Monday was booked at Donington for first trackday of the year, so when the surgery letter dropped into the letter box, I thought the planets were aligning nicely. Trackday then surgery. But no. Turns out ive to have a Covid swab on Saturday, then self isolate until Tuesdau morning. Ive cancelled the trackday and will re-book later once healed. Annoying thing is, I suspect some would have just ignored the isolation period and gone ahead with the trackday, but I'm doing it by the book
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And so it begins. Turned up for the swab test this morning, turns out that the surgery now looks like being cancelled because the second Covid vac is due on the 1st May, so not seven days between the two, as stipulated and required by the Health Authority. So, trackday cancelled, surgery likely to be cancelled and back on the waiting list, no doubt to be re-scheduled when I'm going on holiday or to clash with the other trackdays booked this summer. Only chance to smooth this out is if I can get the 2nd Covid jab put back a couple of days on Monday morning :groan
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Dont you just know it. Surgery cancelled, weather looks great for Donington too, not allowed to re-arrange the 2nd Covid jab :thumbdown
Re: The Covid thread - YamFazFan - 03-05-21
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Re: The Covid thread - agricola - 03-05-21
(03-05-21, 11:19 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: 50 million UK Covid injections milestone due to be hit today.
Amazing achievement.
Absolutely.
Had my second on Saturday, arm a little sore but that's expected.
Im just a little concerned about the brakes coming too early at the minute, we need to tighten the borders
Re: The Covid thread - YamFazFan - 03-05-21
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Re: The Covid thread - fazersharp - 03-05-21
(03-05-21, 11:28 AM)agricola link Wrote: [quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=26604.msg324885#msg324885 date=1620037158]
50 million UK Covid injections milestone due to be hit today.
Amazing achievement
Absolutely.
Had my second on Saturday, arm a little sore but that's expected.
Im just a little concerned about the brakes coming too early at the minute, we need to tighten the borders
[/quote]i guess you meant concerned brakes coming off too early.
I think things are being relaxed too slow. We were told get the vaccine to get life back to normal, we have kept our side of the deal and don't see much change yet. Summers coming people will be outside more, by the time things get relaxed we will be in another winter lockdoown.
I do think that we should keep the borders closed and seems stupid to think about allowing foreign holidays.
Re: The Covid thread - YamFazFan - 04-05-21
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Re: The Covid thread - agricola - 04-05-21
(03-05-21, 10:37 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=26604.msg324886#msg324886 date=1620037709]
[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=26604.msg324885#msg324885 date=1620037158]
50 million UK Covid injections milestone due to be hit today.
Amazing achievement
Absolutely.
Had my second on Saturday, arm a little sore but that's expected.
Im just a little concerned about the brakes coming too early at the minute, we need to tighten the borders
[/quote]i guess you meant concerned brakes coming off too early.
I think things are being relaxed too slow. We were told get the vaccine to get life back to normal, we have kept our side of the deal and don't see much change yet. Summers coming people will be outside more, by the time things get relaxed we will be in another winter lockdoown.
I do think that we should keep the borders closed and seems stupid to think about allowing foreign holidays.
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Yes, that's what I meant. Need to remember only half the population has had the vax, and only half of those have had both. There is a long way to go yet. The builder working next door told me he's not having the vax cos he thinks he had the Covid last year and is now safe due to having antibodies. He doesn't know that that though. Yep, keep the borders as closed as possible and foreign hols off the agenda.
Re: The Covid thread - fazersharp - 04-05-21
(04-05-21, 09:12 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: A contributor to one of the news programmes the other day was saying how when deciding whether to lock/unlock and the pace of doing so, the government should take into account all those who for whatever reason haven't taken up the offer of a vaccination.Probably BBC and most likely that contributor is a campaigner for stricter lockdowns of some sort.We are told that data is showing even with just 1 jab a reduction in being able to catch the virus then a reduction of symptoms if you do, there does not seem to me to be any reason to not now lift restrictions quicker. Apart from the government hell bent on not wanting to give ammunition to Labour who like to blame the government for every single covid fatality.
I've got every sympathy and understanding with those that are unable to have it for a genuine medical reason, but are they seriously suggesting that the normal majority accept locking down with all the subsequent disruption to their lives to protect a minority bunch of idiots who believe in bonkers conspiracy theorys??. Unbelievable :rolleyes
Look what has been happening in the care-homes with residents almost being treated like prisoners and not allowed out - or if they do step outside they have to isolate for 14 days. The government have had to be threatened with legal action before they have just changed the rules. 95% of them have had 1 jab and 75% have had 2 jabs - what is the point of the jabs if it changes nothing.
I am not saying lift all restrictions now but to speed up the steps to the 21st June, to take some of what can happen after then and apply half of it now. Like they have just done with funerals. weddings also have a situation where on the 20th June they can only have 30 people but the day after they can have literally 1,000s. There should be steps in-between. Same with indoor catering and pubs to allow people to pay and order at the bar.There is room for every area of lock down to have extra steps towards full unlock.