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Re: stuttering fzs 600 - Dead Eye - 15-08-12
Amazing dedication to your 600 here red. I love mechanics like this but lack of experience (and thankfully problems) stops me
Though I apparently have a gearbox to change on my cage... so that should keep me occupied.Keep up the work, I'm still following ^^
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 15-08-12
soz red fell asleep!!!!!.....you done good today matey??
.......have you chkd head between pots for hairline cracks etc?
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 15-08-12
(15-08-12, 10:27 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: Amazing dedication to your 600 here red. I love mechanics like this but lack of experience (and thankfully problems) stops me
Keep up the work, I'm still following ^^
thanks deadeye.....ive had the 600 for 10 years now,so sort of got attached to it,been a fantastic bike,probs not worth a great deal now so might as well hang on to it
good luck with the cage gear box...easy enough to do,is it fwd ?
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 15-08-12
(15-08-12, 10:30 PM)CRH link Wrote: soz red fell asleep!!!!!.....you done good today matey??
hi matey.....not checked the head yet,will need a good clean first and scrape off whats left of the old gasket.will remove all valves and check that they are all good before i order the gasket,then if i need any new ones i can order at the same time.
plenty to keep me busy in the mean time as will grind in the valves the old fashion way.....grinding paste and sucker on a stick
.......proper mechanics Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 15-08-12
looks to me by the look of that gasket that the head wasn,t torqued down very well??....saw this black shit before on a cavalier i did and to me it looked like carbon!!....and that wasnt torqued right either??
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 15-08-12
and yes!!..the best way to grind the valves!!....dont f,get to chk the valve gides either?..but then again?..it didnt smoke did it?...still think its the valves though?..although that head gasket looks sus dont it??....anyway? not long to go?..what is it now?..6hours?..only 18 to go?? :\ ......ps you are allowed a tea break you know? :rollin
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 16-08-12
i think it might be a mixture of the two.the gasket is defo not right and it came off way to easy,dont think the black stuff is carbon,it feels a bit rubbery so think its some sort of coating on the std yam gasket ,the replacement ones i`ve seen look to be copper,head was torqued down correctly
as for the valves,iam going to try my valve spring compression tool tonight,not sure if it will fit at mo.
i`ll know more when i get the valves out
as a little treat to myself i bought a new torque wrench today as old one not to be trusted any more,got myself some new hex drive sockets aswell ,my old omes were only just long enough to remove the head bolts
new ones a bit longer....bought at MACHINE MART in tower hamlets.....my favorite shop
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
never seen that on any head gasket before?....thats why i thought it may be carbon?....by the way? we used a car compressor type when doing the busa!! with a bit of a jiggle it fit??
.....got fkn problem meself now?....when i put igy on" all the lights flash on clocks when i put headlights on and flick to main beam!!!!!!!!!! :\ ......i fkn hate electrics :'(
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 16-08-12
(16-08-12, 05:41 PM)CRH link Wrote:never seen that on any head gasket before?....thats why i thought it may be carbon?....by the way? we used a car compressor type when doing the busa!! with a bit of a jiggle it fit??
hi matey....wish i could help you with that,as i`ve already said not too go at electrics......try the usual suspects first earths,connections and battery.....if you have not tried that already
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
yea had a quick look earlier! couldnt see owt amiss so time for strip down number 2!....thought after last time with neutral switch prob, that would be it for a while?...am like you?..big lumpy metal bits over yards a wiring anytime!!...brings back memories of a gl1000 gold wing i bought in 1975!...fantastic bike!...appart from always in bike shop with lecy probs!!! :\ ......think ile post it and see what i get bk?? :rolleyes .....did you whip valves out?
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 16-08-12
evening my automotive playmates........cleaned the head up tonight,no signs of damage
also found my valve spring compressors...for cars really and are both too big :\ ...think i can modify the one on the right though,this ones for ohv engines the other for ohc.....iam going to cut a length of 16mm od tube and cut a slot in it length ways , this will fit in the top jaws of the clamp and reduce the diameter, the slot is so i can remove the collets i will also need a 20mm spacer to fit on the valve face for the same reason.only 1/2 hr tonight as long day at work.......6 1/2 so far
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 16-08-12
having trouble uploading pictures tonight , will try again tomorrow......2 pictures of the cleaned head and one of the spring compressors
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
only 1/2 hour?.....has she got you doing fkn housework again?.....tut tut tut :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin oh f,got...only ........17 1/2 to go!!!!!!!!!!! :lol
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - red98 - 16-08-12
no not housework :rollin .......11 hr day at work,work :\
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - ade the blade - 16-08-12
evening all.........yes i`ve been here on and off keeping up to date with the major surgery thats in progress :lol only question i have is, why when you filled up the comb / chambers with fuel that partly leaked out after a short while, did you instantly suspect the head gasket? reason i ask is............if the valves are all nicely seated ( closed) and the `crush` washer on the plugs are in good shape, then for all intent and purposes that chamber should be water / fuel tight. am i correct? if `fluid` is leaking somehow, then its seeping past a valve or dicky plug washer...........so where does the head gasket come into all this? bear in mind the head has been upside-down during this test? still sticking with fuelly / carbs issue........sowwy ! :rolleyes
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
you took the words out me mouth ade!!!!! :rolleyes ......i was just thinking the same??.....ps nice to have you bk mate :b
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - ade the blade - 16-08-12
creeping barsteward :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin . hope ya well clive mate
sticking with carbs , but i reckon any compression probs point to leaking plugs (s) or valve seatings. sorry, my money aint on the gasket, whatever its condition.........but hey what do i know...........i`m just a weekend crossdresser that likes to talk to hunky fellas of a weeknight :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
ya not bad urself mate!! :b ......anyway?....ime going with valves!!....that compresion test says it all i think?? :rolleyes ps you got decent pair a high heels i can borra? :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - ade the blade - 16-08-12
gotta cracking pair of cerise sling backs if they`ll fit matey........................oh they`re size 16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin be warned, they are a real bitch to run in.......don`t ask ! and yes, valves do sound a bit suspect but not for stuttering........more along the lines of poor power performance and ba$tard starting issues perhaps, i don`t know.............and i`m tired. busy day again today :'(
Re: stuttering fzs 600 - CRH - 16-08-12
yuk!! not pink mate?..what the fk do you think i am? :\ ......tried sling backs before?....chaff me a bit?....but hey?..hang on to em?...red will be along shortly?? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b