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Re: Centre stand return isn't - unfazed - 07-04-20

Bolts are shouldered and cannot be overtighten  to cause the sticking.
A few possibilities for sticking, one of the two springs is broken, two the hinge part of the stand is multi layer steel and when it rusts it can swell the layers enough to cause the sticking and three it was painted and two much paint in the holes on the stand..
The only way to be sure is remove the stand and check it.
Any I came across with the rust issue I usually grind it down a bit until it moves freely.



Re: Centre stand return isn't - BBROWN1664 - 08-04-20

(07-04-20, 10:51 PM)unfazed link Wrote: Bolts are shouldered and cannot be overtighten  to cause the sticking.
A few possibilities for sticking, one of the two springs is broken, two the hinge part of the stand is multi layer steel and when it rusts it can swell the layers enough to cause the sticking and three it was painted and two much paint in the holes on the stand..
The only way to be sure is remove the stand and check it.
Any I came across with the rust issue I usually grind it down a bit until it moves freely.

Another possibility, which I know is the case with mine, is the whole thing is covered in crap and old grease. I need to just take mine off, give it a good clean and grease up before putting it back on again. I had the same issue with the side stand.

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 08-04-20

It's clean, but paint in the wrong spot and surface rust around the pivot points are strong suspects. I had a go at the stand, but didn't do anything with the frame side. I'm pretty sure I've got paint touching watching my own video. I'll get it off again and have a go at it.

What's best for getting rust off in this situation, a file? or wire brush on a drill bit?

The outside spring isn't broken, but poor. The inside one pulls so must be whole too. No one knows how I can replace the springs? That's the one thing I still need I think, the rest you've been stars on, thank you.

Re: Centre stand return isn't - darrsi - 08-04-20

(08-04-20, 09:08 PM)Kenny Dave link Wrote: It's clean, but paint in the wrong spot and surface rust around the pivot points are strong suspects. I had a go at the stand, but didn't do anything with the frame side. I'm pretty sure I've got paint touching watching my own video. I'll get it off again and have a go at it.

What's best for getting rust off in this situation, a file? or wire brush on a drill bit?

The outside spring isn't broken, but poor. The inside one pulls so must be whole too. No one knows how I can replace the springs? That's the one thing I still need I think, the rest you've been stars on, thank you.


Link for the springs is in my first post. Bit expensive though.

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 08-04-20

Quote:Link for the springs is in my first post. Bit expensive though.
Sorry, I missed that. Yowsers, 27 quid for springs. I could get them from my last work for less than a fiver for sure, if I could get the dimensions. I guess I'll measure what I've got and take a punt.


Re: Centre stand return isn't - unfazed - 09-04-20

When you remove the springs check the movement, it should be very free, not sticky.

Re: Centre stand return isn't - darrsi - 09-04-20

(08-04-20, 10:32 PM)Kenny Dave link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi]
Link for the springs is in my first post. Bit expensive though.
Sorry, I missed that. Yowsers, 27 quid for springs. I could get them from my last work for less than a fiver for sure, if I could get the dimensions. I guess I'll measure what I've got and take a punt.
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Looking at the video,my money would be on either the stand being twisted, or something causing rubbing at the joints. I don't reckon it's the springs.
As Unfazed says, if you take one of the bolts off, unhook the spring, then replace the bolt again and see if the stand still has that jerky movement and it will answer the question.

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Gnasher - 09-04-20

(09-04-20, 05:10 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Looking at the video,my money would be on either the stand being twisted, or something causing rubbing at the joints. I don't reckon it's the springs.
As Unfazed says, if you take one of the bolts off, unhook the spring, then replace the bolt again and see if the stand still has that jerky movement and it will answer the question.


:agree  :thumbup

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 09-04-20

OK so it's working ok. I had it off and got the dremel on everything, no paint or rust. In the hole, on the sides, on the frame, on the stand. I also noticed that it moves ok without the nuts on, so I've got them on at 20Nm now instead of 30, which I'm hoping is ok with the lock nuts and threadlock.

It doesn't seem bent, I've added pictures to the gallery: https://imgur.com/a/epPehsa

Thank you all for your guidance, lots of good stuff on here.




Re: Centre stand return isn't - Gnasher - 10-04-20

(09-04-20, 09:20 PM)Kenny Dave link Wrote: https://imgur.com/a/epPehsa[/url]



They also suffer a crush effect when falling over, this pushes one leg in, raising the height of the bridging section the the spring attaches to.  Thus reducing the spring tension and how much it pulls the stand up, when bent and it doesn't take much they flap like yours is.  The loosening the bolts will have no effect as the stand was freely moving, over tightening does as they stick. 

Re: Centre stand return isn't - fazersharp - 10-04-20

(09-04-20, 09:20 PM)Kenny Dave link Wrote: It doesn't seem bent, I've added pictures to the gallery: https://imgur.com/a/epPehsa
Thank you all for your guidance, lots of good stuff on here.
Why have you got 4 boxes of bananas in your garage  :lol

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 10-04-20

(10-04-20, 10:15 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Why have you got 4 boxes of bananas in your garage  :lol
Do you think that's not enough bananas? Are you selling any?  Wink

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 14-04-20

(10-04-20, 10:15 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Why have you got 4 boxes of bananas in your garage  :lol
Just for you Fazersharp: [Image: CCPgmTX.jpg?1]


Re: Centre stand return isn't - fazersharp - 14-04-20

Are those marks on the floor your centre stand dragging  :lol

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 15-04-20

The workmate dragging with the clamp attached Wink See if you can see it in the picture, you are very Eagle eyed!

Re: Centre stand return isn't - fazersharp - 15-04-20

(15-04-20, 04:39 PM)Kenny Dave link Wrote: The workmate dragging with the clamp attached Wink See if you can see it in the picture, you are very Eagle eyed!
That's where my user name comes from  Wink Yes you have dragged it almost out of the shot. Hows your cat ?

Re: Centre stand return isn't - Kenny Dave - 15-04-20

(15-04-20, 08:36 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Hows your cat ?
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Re: Centre stand return isn't - blackvyper - 12-05-20

My center stand did the same thing to me last month.  I checked the spring and then sprayed it with some WD40, then I raised and lowered it a few times to work the oil in and it was just fine.  Sometime dirt and oil get into the bolts and need to be ceaned out an lubricated.