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Re: caroline flack - Dudeofrude - 17-02-20
What annoys me is the fact that someone relatively famous couldn't take the pressure and killed herself and the whole media goes into a frenzy, 8 stories on the sky news app about her. Yet some poor guy drowns in the floods and they dont even care to mention his name in the single article they wrote about it.
I know it's sad in either case but why is her life more important than his ?♂️
Re: caroline flack - ogri48 - 17-02-20
I cant help but agree. and if it had been the other way around, if the guy had battered her and left her blood all over the bedroom, what do we all think the media and public would be saying if he killed himself to avoid the court hearing?
Re: caroline flack - fazersharp - 17-02-20
BBC had one of those black backgrounds with the dates and a photo of her - like they do for well known actors, a bit sickening when they too played their part in hounding her in the same report hey also showed some bbc footage of her surrounded by press and cameras and then the report over the footage they were calling it a "media scrum" - when they were there and part of it.
Seems to be a lot of journalists falling over themselves backtracking
Re: caroline flack - darrsi - 17-02-20
(17-02-20, 09:32 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: BBC had one of those black backgrounds with the dates and a photo of her - like they do for well known actors, a bit sickening when they too played their part in hounding her in the same report hey also showed some bbc footage of her surrounded by press and cameras and then the report over the footage they were calling it a "media scrum" - when they were there and part of it.
Seems to be a lot of journalists falling over themselves backtracking
Yeah, you're not wrong there!
Re: caroline flack - VNA - 17-02-20
Quote:BBC had one of those black backgrounds with the dates and a photo of her - like they do for well known actors, a bit sickening when they too played their part in hounding her in the same report hey also showed some bbc footage of her surrounded by press and cameras and then the report over the footage they were calling it a "media scrum" - when they were there and part of it.Umm no. A high-profile public figure appears in court on serious assault charges……. Why is that you think this should not be reported? BBC just doing it’s job.
However, I don’t think the BBC goes in for muck racking, gutter journalism, cheque book journalism or phone and email hacking for example.
I do not believe that the BBC can be accused of playing any role, or having had any influence on these recent sad events. To suggest so is a bit silly.
Not that I am saying they don’t ever over step the mark or get it wrong. They rightly got screwed over their reporting of Cliff Richard.
Re: caroline flack - fazersharp - 17-02-20
(17-02-20, 11:04 PM)VNA link Wrote: BBC just doing it’s job I don’t think the BBC goes in for muck racking, gutter journalism, cheque book journalism or phone and email hacking.Is there ever any connection between your brain and what you are typing.
Not that I am saying they don’t ever over step the mark or get it wrong. They rightly got screwed over their reporting of Cliff Richard.
Re: caroline flack - fazersharp - 18-02-20
(15-02-20, 10:54 PM)VNA link Wrote: I don't know who she is,
(17-02-20, 11:04 PM)VNA link Wrote: A high-profile public figureIs there ever any connection between your brain and what you are typing :rollin
Re: caroline flack - VNA - 18-02-20
Quote:Is there ever any connection between your brain and what you are typingI don't do reality TV.
Re: caroline flack - VNA - 18-02-20
Quote:Quote from: VNA on Today at 10:04:24 PM<blockquote> BBC just doing it’s job I don’t think the BBC goes in for muck racking, gutter journalism, cheque book journalism or phone and email hacking.Perhaps you can only see in simple terms of black and white.
Not that I am saying they don’t ever over step the mark or get it wrong. They rightly got screwed over their reporting of Cliff Richard.
</blockquote>Is there ever any connection between your brain and what you are typing.
Re: caroline flack - ogri48 - 18-02-20
:lol :lol :lol VNA I swear to god, if you weren't on this forum, youd stand at home in front of a mirror arguing with yourself until you got so angry you punched yourself in the face
:lol
Re: caroline flack - vinnyb - 18-02-20
(18-02-20, 10:23 AM)ogri48 link Wrote: :lol :lol :lol VNA I swear to god, if you weren't on this forum, youd stand at home in front of a mirror arguing with yourself until you got so angry you punched yourself in the face:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: caroline flack - slappy - 18-02-20
(18-02-20, 11:21 AM)vinnyb link Wrote: [quote author=ogri48 link=topic=25948.msg309462#msg309462 date=1582017836]:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
:lol :lol :lol VNA I swear to god, if you weren't on this forum, youd stand at home in front of a mirror arguing with yourself until you got so angry you punched yourself in the face
I would pay good money to see that ! [/quote]
Re: caroline flack - mtread - 18-02-20
The media makes and breaks.
You only need to have recently watched 'The Christine Keeler Affair' (proper TV) to see that nothing has changed in 60 years.
Re: caroline flack - VNA - 18-02-20
Quote::lol :lol :lol VNA I swear to god, if you weren't on this forum, youd stand at home in front of a mirror arguing with yourself until you got so angry you punched yourself in the face
Like I say to suggest that the BBC are guilty of persecuting Ms Flack is ridiculous, unless that is you can produce evidence to the contrary Ogri.
Meanwhile a great many are stating how they find the bullying, muck racking and persecution of individuals by the tabloid press disgusting. But then the next morning they buy another copy of the Sun, Mail, Express etc.
The fact is there is massive demand for the shite that these shitty so-called newspapers peddle. And yup lives get destroyed in the process.
Re: caroline flack - YamFazFan - 18-02-20
(18-02-20, 12:34 AM)VNA link Wrote:Delete 'TV' and that statement makes perfect sense.Quote:Is there ever any connection between your brain and what you are typingI don't do reality TV.
Re: caroline flack - fireblake - 18-02-20
(16-02-20, 01:19 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=25948.msg309373#msg309373 date=1581853681]
Id never heard of her, or seen Love Island. Does the death of a tv presenter justify so much mainstream coverage? Or a sad reflection of society today that someone who simply presents a tv programme is idolised to that extent. Darrsi makes sound point regarding the CPS
She's been in loads of shows, going as far back as Bo Selecta nearly 20 years ago, but also hosted many programs that have an acquired taste, which is why it would be understandable if you didn't know her.
Shows like Celebrity Jungle, Strictly Come Dancing, which she presented AND personally won it as a competitor too, and Love Island are most certainly not my cup of tea and i would never watch them, whereas other people can't get enough of all of them so she would be very familiar to them.
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Not forgetting CBBC when she was in her 20's
Re: caroline flack - Bazza123 - 20-02-20
Very sad that someone has died. However if the tables had turned and it was a man in this situation, I’m not sure the public would be so forgiving.
For example, at the age of 31 she was dating a 17 year old, and I believe she had other domestic violence incidents to her name, with two different men. Her boyfriend in this case called 999 after this last one, so it must have been serious.
Would a man who had dated a 17 year old girl, who had (allegedly)attacked two other women before, and was said to have attacked his sleeping girlfriend with a bedside lamp be called “beautiful” in the press and magazines. I think not.
Women have been pushing for parity in police investigations against domestic abusers etc for a long time now. The same crowd now seem to be saying “how dare the CPS pursue her”.
Re: caroline flack - darrsi - 21-02-20
She lamped him (literally) while he was asleep, which could've done some serious damage, or worse, which resulted in him calling the police and saying out loud "She's trying to kill me", and on responding they find him injured but also now her covered in blood after self harming.
The whole reason they altered the law years ago was because there would quite often be sympathy for an abuser once things had calmed down, they'd sobered up, or they'd begged for forgiveness AGAIN.
But in a few relationships this would almost be standard and regular behaviour, which sometimes like in this case can go one step too far where the injuries involved call for outside intervention to put a stop to it.
Booze certainly does not help, but add drugs to the mix and that's where the violence takes a different turn as they will bring out the worst in you.
Most peoples claims about poor mental health state are 'normally' triggered by booze, drugs or more likely a mixture of both in the first place, so it's all self inflicted.
It would have actually been very wrong if the CPS hadn't pursued what went on with the evidence that was presented, but i kind of get the feeling that this would have ended badly anyway whether they had or not, then people would have been shouting at why they didn't get involved.
Re: caroline flack - Oldgit - 21-02-20
http://https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/troubled-young-lawyer-found-dead-21543189
It's happening every day, people need to be supported when going through troubling times.
Re: caroline flack - YamFazFan - 21-02-20
(18-02-20, 07:31 PM)VNA link Wrote: But then the next morning they buy another copy of the Sun, Mail, Express etc., Mirror, Guardian etc...