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Re: Something broke... - Hugh Mungus - 26-07-18
Oh yes, good job you found that out before complaining about the engine having bits missing. This is where the difference lies between buying a complete engine from a breaker and one from a guy breaking his bike - The breaker will always remove the alternator and starter.
Shame about the big end but these things do happen. If you get the workshop to fit the engine don't assume they will service it without you saying so. Don't forget to tell them you want the old engine too.
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 26-07-18
(26-07-18, 06:21 PM)Hugh Mungus link Wrote: The breaker will always remove the alternator and starter.
I know that now, glad I asked!
Quote:Don't forget to tell them you want the old engine too.
Yes, I've asked for the old engine back. The valve clearances will need checking in 7000 miles or so, that gives me time to practice taking the lid off!
I'm thinking about regularly taking the exhaust bolts off and put a bit of coppaslip on them so they don't end up a rusted mess that breaks and needs drilling out...
PS thanks for the suggestion about getting a local Foccer to help fit it, but for something like this I'd prefer a guarantee from a workshop
Re: Something broke... - Hugh Mungus - 26-07-18
(26-07-18, 07:42 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: I'm thinking about regularly taking the exhaust bolts off and put a bit of coppaslip on them so they don't end up a rusted mess that breaks and needs drilling out...
I think that each and every one of us that have removed an exhaust downpipe have had the same idea. The trouble is that I don't know anyone that has kept it up :lol
Re: Something broke... - fazersharp - 26-07-18
(26-07-18, 08:16 PM)Hugh Mungus link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=24363.msg282374#msg282374 date=1532630558]
I'm thinking about regularly taking the exhaust bolts off and put a bit of coppaslip on them so they don't end up a rusted mess that breaks and needs drilling out...
I think that each and every one of us that have removed an exhaust downpipe have had the same idea. The trouble is that I don't know anyone that has kept it up :lol
[/quote]The best thing is to start with the plus gas - or your preferred lube, weeks before you attempt to remove them for the first time. I used something called Kroil used for cleaning and lubing guns. I squirted it right where it needed to be with a syringe.I dont think they were ever put on with anything in the factory so once we do it with copper grease it should last years --- shouldn't it ?
Re: Something broke... - robbo - 27-07-18
Regarding the exhaust stud nuts. When you get the nuts off, and replace any studs if necessary, use stainless nuts rather than the oe ones, using copperslip. These will be a tad thinner leaving an amount of thread exposed. Fit stainless domed nuts on the exposed thread, using copperslip again, to "seal off" the stud. If you cracked these one at a time once a year and re- copperslipped, you shouldn't have any problems.
Re: Something broke... - agricola - 27-07-18
Is that the engine with the Powercommander on it?
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 28-07-18
(27-07-18, 10:00 PM)agricola link Wrote: Is that the engine with the Powercommander on it?
Yes, but I only use it with the basic map that smooths out the power curve.
Re: Something broke... - agricola - 28-07-18
Did it prove to be reliable in operation, any problems with it. Seriously thinking of going down that route
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 29-07-18
(28-07-18, 06:18 PM)agricola link Wrote: Did it prove to be reliable in operation, any problems with it. Seriously thinking of going down that route
Yes, it's been reliable, I've not had any problems with it.
Re: Something broke... - agricola - 29-07-18
Ok thanks
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 09-08-18
The saga continues...
I spoke to the workshop yesterday afternoon (Wednesday) and they told me that the downpipes (from the engine into the exhaust) were too rusted to be reusable, so I needed replacements.
We tried a couple of options without luck, so I phoned up the breakers where I got the engine from and they said they'd be £125 plus £12 delivery. I bitched about the engine being delivered late and got the price down to £80.
And, yes, they're the pipes that originally came off the engine in the first place...
They promised next day delivery, so I just have to hope they get there early enough tomorrow to fit them so I can pick it up and use it in the evening...
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 11-08-18
Huzzah! I have my bike back again :thumbup
Ok, with the new engine and downpipes, plus shipping and fitting, it's cost me almost £1200 :eek but it's amazing what you get used to, because it now feels completely different.
The new engine runs sweetly, the throttle is less choppy, the clutch smoother and whilst it was great to ride before, it now feels fabulous
About the only niggle is that I keep the front end of the foot gearshift set low, but the workshop put it back at a much higher level, meaning I had to literally lift my foot off the peg in order to change up!
But a couple of minutes with a spanner fixed that, now I'm going to take it out tomorrow for a proper check ride... :angel
Re: Something broke... - Hugh Mungus - 11-08-18
Ouch, that cost a bit but at least you're back on the road and if it goes better than the old engine that can't be a bad thing.
Re: Something broke... - Grahamm - 11-08-18
Well I went out for a ride earlier today and the bike is very sweet to ride.
I'm glad I did, because the handling and responses are not quite what I'm used to.
It wasn't dangerous, but there were a couple of "ok, that wasn't what I expected to happen" moments and I'd prefer finding them out now, rather than in a couple of days when I'm loaded up with luggage and on my way to Devon!
Re: Something broke... - F4celess - 15-08-18
(11-08-18, 12:43 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: Huzzah! I have my bike back again :thumbup
.....
That was a speedy turnaround! :eek The garage that did the engine swap obviously knew their stuff !! Plus the fact the bike now rides much more silky smooth, it's a 'born again' bike! Should have dropped a more potent Yamaha engine in there, while you had the opportunity, perhaps something more SuperSport inspired. :b
Re: Something broke... - celticbiker - 15-08-18
Could be miles off the mark here but wouldn't one of the r1 engines go in?
Re: Something broke... - Dudeofrude - 15-08-18
(15-08-18, 03:12 PM)celticbiker link Wrote: Could be miles off the mark here but wouldn't one of the r1 engines go in?
Technically with enough effort and faffing you could fit any engine you liked into it but I would imagine it's a lot more hassle than its worth. It's cost 1200 quid to fit it's original engine back in so I can only imagine the cost of modification, replacement parts etc needed to fit a different engine.
It's would almost definitely be more cost efficient to just buy a faster bike..... if that's what the end goal was
Re: Something broke... - Hugh Mungus - 16-08-18
If you want a bike that goes like an R1 just buy an R1.
Re: Something broke... - mtread - 17-08-18
I'm sure one of these could be squeezed in :-)
http://spitfiresite.com/uploaded_images/rolls-3.jpg
Re: Something broke... - tommyardin - 17-08-18
(17-08-18, 03:06 PM)mtread link Wrote: I'm sure one of these could be squeezed in :-)
http://spitfiresite.com/uploaded_images/rolls-3.jpg
I think it would take a magician to get that to fit, Say Merlin maybe. :lol