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Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - YamFazFan - 04-01-19 If the FZS600 can get an exemption there's hope for everyone!. No chance I'll bet. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - Arfa - 04-01-19 Really not sure, seems it certainly fails the Euro-2 standard on CO2 emissions alone (14.8g/km - https://www.ultimatespecs.com/motorcycles-specs/honda/yamaha-fzs-600-fazer-1999). Whereas Euro-2 and Euro-3 stipulate CO2 limits of 5.5 g/km and 2 g/km. But as far as NOx emissions I can't find anything. :-( If it's below that 0.15 g/km limit for Euro-3, there's a chance the FZS600 could live on in London! Euro emission standards: https://www.transportpolicy.net/standard/eu-motorcycles-emissions/ Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 04-01-19 Just checked my V5s. Like I suspect everybody else's, my FZS600 doesn't show a NOx figure. My 2015 Tiger 800 shows 0.117 (pass), but my (fuel injection) 2004 Speed Triple shows 0.160 (just fail). So I think we will be lucky to get the 600s and 1000s low enough. Having said that, if there are no NOx figures registered with dvla for our bikes, shouldn't we be given the benefit of the doubt? My diesel Mondeo is showing 0.225 :eek On the other hand, any VW that's ever been built passes with flying colours :lol Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 31-01-19 So as I suspected the FZS1000 is technically Euro3 compliant and all we need is a Cert to continue to ride out bikes in London - - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=24907.msg291604;boardseen#new Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 14-03-19 filler post see next page... Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 14-03-19 Quote:04-03-2019 MAG recommends ULEZ ‘breathing space’ for motorcycles So I have renewed my ancient subs to MAG, due to the work they are doing on our behalf regarding ULEZ. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A fellow Foccer has been trying to get his bike made exempt and you should follow his progress in the following thread- - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=24907.msg294007#msg294007 Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 22-03-19 FZS600 is a no no.... (see below from Yamaha) might be worth someone asking about the FZ6 Good Afternoon, Thank you for your enquiry. We do however regret to advise that only models constructed to comply with European Whole Vehicle Type Approval, regulations that were not fully introduced until 2003, will qualify for a CoC. Due to the age of your machine it was not subject to European Whole Type Approval testing, in this instance we can only advise the NOx output for the Model code, therefore a machine of that model of a similar age, which was 0.185 (g/km). We apologise we are not able to be of assistance. Kind Regards Customer Service Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 25-03-19 This is interesting https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ulez_exemptions_for_pre_euro_3_m MAG's recent Freedom of Information request to TFL about exemptions. From tfl's response it looks like exemptions will have to be on a bike by bike basis, rather than attributed to whole models. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - midden - 27-03-19 (22-03-19, 05:43 PM)mtread link Wrote: FZS600 is a no no.... (see below from Yamaha) might be worth someone asking about the FZ6 what year is you fox mtread Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 27-03-19 2003 model, registered in Nov 2002. Last of the Foxeyes with the tuning forks logo on the tank. Don't think they come any later. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - nick crisp - 14-05-19 If they spell emissions correctly, it could possibly affect me. But no, not while there are grammatical errors to be found :b /grammar nazi Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 15-05-19 Grammar and Spelling are two entirely different things :b /pedant nazi Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 24-05-19 So I have done a freedom of info request to TFL - I want to know exactly what kit is required to test bikes for NOx and create a CoC. Superbikehire in east london atm are the only place I know of, but they are charging £175 and they wont guarantee a pass - smells like a cash gouging scam so decided I would like to know how they can justify this cost and why some bikes wont pass. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 25-05-19 As someone who has had to answer FOI requests in the past, I fear you will be fobbed off. TFL will say that any testing station /dealer that has approved kit for testing NOx to a Euro 3 standard can provide TFL with results. So far only one dealer has applied to do this, but they have asked for others to apply. The fee is a commercial decision by the garage, nothing to do with them. The CoC is the result of the test carried out by the manufacturer. A trustworthy source. The question needing to be asked is why don't TFL accept that bikes of the same model /year as one that has a CoC should also be exempted? Why do all bikes of the same type need their own CoC, when they are identical (in terms of NOx). As I said, anybody taken to court for a bike identical to one TFL have passed, would win. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 29-05-19 (25-05-19, 01:14 AM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - Cosmic - 05-06-19 I have an 03 Foxeye 600 (FZS?) and need to ride in to The City for work. Plus I live inside the South Circ. I took a punt (ok, my company paid for it) and had it tested. Guess what?? It passed!! It failed first time, but was so close they were able to tweak it and it passed! Cost an arm an a leg, but will pay for itself after about a month. I now have a CoC from TFL. The whole thing is BS and, as soon as it comes out to the SC I will have to get rid of the Voyager, but I am bloody well keeping the VR6!! Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - mtread - 05-06-19 That's very interesting. When I asked Yamaha about a CoC for my 03 fzs600, they said they couldn't issue one for the year/model, but their tests suggested a 'fail' at 0.18. Goes to show the (expensive) benefits of individual testing. As you say, will save money quite quickly. Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - Buzz - 06-06-19 (05-06-19, 01:57 PM)Cosmic link Wrote: Cost an arm an a leg Same bike as me, I was thinking of selling as I'm up in Camden. Can you let us know much and where you got yours tested? Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 08-06-19 (05-06-19, 01:57 PM)Cosmic link Wrote: It failed first time, but was so close they were able to tweak it and it passed! Cost an arm an a leg, but will pay for itself after about a month. I now have a CoC from TFL.I also would like to know where and how much please :-) Re: London riders: New Emisions, does it effect you! - b1k3rdude - 12-06-19 (29-05-19, 06:59 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: That exactly why I have made an Foi request, why has only one dealer in all of London done this.So I got a replay from TFL to my Foi request - Quote:So what is a "type-approval ‘type 1’ emissions test" and has anyone every had one done? And Dynomometer sound a lot like a dynojet rolling road... |