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Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - bludclot - 27-02-18




Two weeks. If it hasn't arrived after two weeks then worry not, unless 'special circumstances' apply.


See here:


http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/what-time-period-for-issue-motor-ticket.html


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - fazersharp - 27-02-18

What I don't get is that you have your picture taken going over the limit heading towards the van - BUT that is just a biker-any biker, then they take a picture as you go by which IS you because its your number plate but by then they have a picture of YOU doing the limit- so they have nothing. 


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - Dudeofrude - 27-02-18

(26-02-18, 09:12 PM)johnakay link Wrote: I've seen one that has a camera on the side of the van.
a bit like those domed security cameras.
this was reported last year about these are going to be rolled out to catch speeding bikers


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280183/The-police-van-traps-motorists-speed-cameras-AND-sides.html


State of the art 'advanced' van?? It's got 2 security cams and a dash cam ??? and as sharpie says they haven't got you for anything as they need the laser to prove your speed so they can still only get you from behind the van just means they actually get bikers without jumping out the van.
I'm sure they could probably get you with the camera footage if you were obscenely over the limit but I'd highly doubt they could prove 4 or 5 mph over.

And back to that van.... £30000 extra!! For a fucking dashcam and two security beacons from maplin haha
No wonder they need to catch us speeding


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - nick crisp - 27-02-18

(27-02-18, 12:05 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: And back to that van.... £30000 extra!! For a fucking dashcam and two security beacons from maplin haha
No wonder they need to catch us speeding


This actually isn't funny. At a time when the gov't has been banging on about needing 'austerity' measures in the economy, and cutting public service funding to the bare minimum, and they're still seeing catching speeders as the number one priority. That's worth spending thousands on still, isn't it?  :rolleyes  If that isn't proof that it's not about safety, I don't know what is.


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - darrsi - 27-02-18

Got these starting soon as well.




Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - Dudeofrude - 27-02-18

(27-02-18, 01:07 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Got these starting soon as well.

Well if that's all they're used for then I'm 100% on-board with um, but the fact it they'll soon be used to catch you having a drink, eating some crisps, changing the radio station etc etc until it's get to the point ya don't dare fart while your driving in case ya get a fine


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - darrsi - 27-02-18

(27-02-18, 04:53 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23810.msg276080#msg276080 date=1519733251]
Got these starting soon as well.

Well if that's all they're used for then I'm 100% on-board with um, but the fact it they'll soon be used to catch you having a drink, eating some crisps, changing the radio station etc etc until it's get to the point ya don't dare fart while your driving in case ya get a fine
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I’ve read they’ll be looking out for people not wearing seatbelts too.


You’re right though, i wouldn’t be surprised if they look for motorbikes in the cycle area at traffic lights.


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - focced_off - 27-02-18

(27-02-18, 04:53 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23810.msg276080#msg276080 date=1519733251]
Got these starting soon as well.

Well if that's all they're used for then I'm 100% on-board with um, but the fact it they'll soon be used to catch you having a drink, eating some crisps, changing the radio station etc etc until it's get to the point ya don't dare fart while your driving in case ya get a fine
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you do THAT too??  :eek Suppose what happens behind closed (car) doors, is not another mans business.  :lol


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - Grahamm - 02-03-18

(27-02-18, 01:07 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Got these starting soon as well.

Good.

It's been demonstrated that using a mobile whilst driving is as dangerous as drink driving and I doubt anyone here would approve of that.




Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - fazersharp - 03-03-18

How easy is it to get the motorcyclist - small target long distance or is it some sort of auto focus tracking. You are in the sights but as you are coming around the corner very easily you quickly are out of the track - unlike a car that is wider how long does it need with an oncoming to register a speed. I am confused because If you are followed by a car they record your speed over 1/4 mile ? for evidence or have I got that  wrong     


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - fazersharp - 03-03-18

Never mind i have modded my fazer - here --------


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - Millietant - 05-03-18

I'm all for catching mobile phone users, testers and the like - and also people who speed where it really is dangerous (near schools and in built up ares).


But, most non urban speed limits today are way too low for optimum safety (I say this after having worked many years ago, on designing road and white lining schemes, which used to based on science rather than the now popular "slower is safer" approach) - so I'm totally against out-of-town cameras and especially camera vans on rural dual carriageways and "open" roads.


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - focced_off - 05-03-18

(03-03-18, 10:17 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: How easy is it to get the motorcyclist - small target long distance or is it some sort of auto focus tracking. You are in the sights but as you are coming around the corner very easily you quickly are out of the track - unlike a car that is wider how long does it need with an oncoming to register a speed. I am confused because If you are followed by a car they record your speed over 1/4 mile ? for evidence or have I got that  wrong   

Well the vans (or police stood with a hand gun) are usually parked to one end of a straight road so once you are on that stretch coming towards them, your position wont deviate much to the left or right - unless you weave side to side between lanes (if there's more than 1 which "could" be a tactic) Smile

Granted, on a bike you are 'tiny' compared to the mass plus width of a car - so it would require much greater targeting skill to track you.

.......I don't believe these speed guns have "helmet recognition + tracking" technology...... yet! Big Grin


Re: Can camera vans get you when facing towards you? - fazersharp - 05-03-18

(05-03-18, 01:20 PM)focced_off link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23810.msg276299#msg276299 date=1520111867]
How easy is it to get the motorcyclist - small target long distance or is it some sort of auto focus tracking. You are in the sights but as you are coming around the corner very easily you quickly are out of the track - unlike a car that is wider how long does it need with an oncoming to register a speed. I am confused because If you are followed by a car they record your speed over 1/4 mile ? for evidence or have I got that  wrong   

Well the vans (or police stood with a hand gun) are usually parked to one end of a straight road so once you are on that stretch coming towards them, your position wont deviate much to the left or right - unless you weave side to side between lanes (if there's more than 1 which "could" be a tactic) Smile

Granted, on a bike you are 'tiny' compared to the mass plus width of a car - so it would require much greater targeting skill to track you.

.......I don't believe these speed guns have "helmet recognition + tracking" technology...... yet! Big Grin
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The long straight road position is fine but that is always either after a bend or brow of a hill. So as I come around the bend I spot the van way up ahead up the straight, throw the anchor out and they have not had enough time to lock on to my small target so my the time they have a fix on me I am doing the limit.