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Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - darrsi - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 06:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=23629.msg273395#msg273395 date=1515173837]
Just for future reference, those mini jack to Video/Audio short cables aren’t actually all wired the same, as i found out at work.
I think it’s Sony ones that are wired differently for their own equipment at the mini jack end.


So basically if you were to have one of these connected to non Sony equipment then you may need to join the wrong colours together, ie: white to yellow, etc, to make them compatible.
OK I will try swapping around combos but before I do will it damage anything and also why is there a 4th section on the 3.5 jack when only 3 go in
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It’s not 4, only 3 are wired.


Get a 3RCA to HDMI converter on Ebay, for under a tenner.

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - darrsi - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 06:45 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Or just buy a ps3/ps4 ??


There you go, PS4 AND a new telly, happy days  :lol

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

All of the cheap ones are China but I did read this on one of the listings
Set PS2 component video output to #Y Cb/Pb Cr/Br# before using the converter

So as you already have mentioned Darrsi I am going to try that now 

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 05:01 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I am trying to plug in a PS2 into my tv but the ps2 only has phono outs Red White Yellow and the problem is those sockets are at the back of the tv which is on the wall and although I managed to get them in it can not stay like that...

Is your problem with the back connection that the wall-mounted TV does not sit back on the wall enough with the phono lead connectors plugged into the back of the TV? If so, have you considered a right-angled phono adapter which will not stick out so much from the back of the TV. Here is an example:
 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phono-Degree-Socket-Adaptor-Converter-Black/dp/B01D0BCRRY/ref=sr_1_20/260-1881042-2555820?ie=UTF8&qid=1515174389&sr=8-20&keywords=right+angle+phono+plug

(sorry, your explanation about the bracket being in the way of the connection was not visible when I posted the above.)



Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 06:55 PM)stet link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23629.msg273372#msg273372 date=1515168084]
I am trying to plug in a PS2 into my tv but the ps2 only has phono outs Red White Yellow and the problem is those sockets are at the back of the tv which is on the wall and although I managed to get them in it can not stay like that...

Is your problem with the back connection that the wall-mounted TV does not sit back on the wall enough with the phono lead connectors plugged into the back of the TV. If so, have you considered a rigt-angled phono adapter which will not stick out so much from the back of the TV. Here is an example:
 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phono-Degree-Socket-Adaptor-Converter-Black/dp/B01D0BCRRY/ref=sr_1_20/260-1881042-2555820?ie=UTF8&qid=1515174389&sr=8-20&keywords=right+angle+phono+plug

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Yes thats my problem and the right angle ones dont help as thelip of the bracket on the wall falls exactly on the plugs if I cut off the lip then the 90degree ones would work

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

I tried changing the ps2 settings output but that did not help.

But I did also try the yellwo in each plug in turn and found that if I put the PS2 yellow into the tv White tail of the 3.5 plug I could see some flashes of the ps setup screen and when I pulled the 3.5 jack almost all the way out I got a clear picture, its like the 4 sections of the jack plug dont line up with the connection inside the tv unless my 3.5 to RCA is a dodgy one

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

Been fiddling and found that red-red and white -white without the yellow then I still get a faint buz sound but the left and right speakers are working from the PS2 as they should and soon as I add the yellow the buz gets loud and still no vid.
If I plug the PS2 yellow into the white of the tv and leave off the white and red from the ps2 then pull out the 3.5 plug almost all the way I then get the vid signal as I should. Its like the 4 connections on the 3.5 post are in the wrong place.

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 06:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: OK I will try swapping around combos but before I do will it damage anything and also why is there a 4th section on the 3.5 jack when only 3 go in

Don't worry: you will not damage anything by changing the order of the signals.

Thee phonos into a four-contact jack is correct (three signals [RWY] and one common earth [the three screens of the phono plugs]).

There are six possible combinations of three signals: just try all combinations and see if you find a combination that works.

To make it simpler to do, here are all the combinations:

RWY
RYW
WRY
WYR
YRW
YWR

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - unfazed - 05-01-18

what you are doing will never work since your are trying to get a signal "OUT" of an "IN" port.

It requires a special cable with a Sony unique plug to plug into the Sony unique PS2 "AV1 RGB" port. that will give you your Sound and video out.


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Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 08:37 PM)unfazed link Wrote: what you are doing will never work since your are trying to get a signal "OUT" of an "IN" port.

It requires a special cable with a Sony unique plug to plug into the Sony unique PS2 "AV1 RGB" port. that will give you your Sound and video out.


[Image: s-l1600.jpg]
Thats what I have got and using

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 08:04 PM)stet link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23629.msg273398#msg273398 date=1515174221]

OK I will try swapping around combos but before I do will it damage anything and also why is there a 4th section on the 3.5 jack when only 3 go in

Don't worry: you will not damage anything by changing the order of the signals.

Thee phonos into a four-contact jack is correct (three signals [RWY] and one common earth [the three screens of the phono plugs]).

There are six possible combinations of three signals: just try all combinations and see if you find a combination that works.

To make it simpler to do, here are all the combinations:

RWY
RYW
WRY
WYR
YRW
YWR
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Now I am getting some where the one that works the best is 231 but with the 3.5 plug all the way in I get a buz and a flickering screen until I partly pull out the 3.5 plug and then get a perfect screen and no buz but only sound out of 1 speaker - the right and if I very very gently twiddle the plug I get sound out of the left speaker but not the right no amount of twiddling at 231 gets the sound out of both speakers unless it is a loud buz with no vid.

I am getting close to a beer and if that happens I may well need a new tv and PS   

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

The background to all of this and why I am not buying a PS 3/4 is because I do not game or need one but this ps2 was a friends who brought it around to Sharp Hall for new years eve and they have 14 singstars that only work on ps2.
WE had such a laugh that it may be used again for partys and new year but other than that its not used so spending £2 on the cable I have got I dont mind


Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 08:49 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=unfazed link=topic=23629.msg273411#msg273411 date=1515181020]
what you are doing will never work since your are trying to get a signal "OUT" of an "IN" port.

It requires a special cable with a Sony unique plug to plug into the Sony unique PS2 "AV1 RGB" port. that will give you your Sound and video out.


[Image: s-l1600.jpg]
Thats what I have got and using
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Wait a cotton pickin minute by all the gods I think you are on to something.
The cable in your picture has metal on the outside but mine is plastic is that the difference or is that just a better quality cable in your picture 

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - darrsi - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 08:55 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=stet link=topic=23629.msg273410#msg273410 date=1515179098]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23629.msg273398#msg273398 date=1515174221]

OK I will try swapping around combos but before I do will it damage anything and also why is there a 4th section on the 3.5 jack when only 3 go in

Don't worry: you will not damage anything by changing the order of the signals.

Thee phonos into a four-contact jack is correct (three signals [RWY] and one common earth [the three screens of the phono plugs]).

There are six possible combinations of three signals: just try all combinations and see if you find a combination that works.

To make it simpler to do, here are all the combinations:

RWY
RYW
WRY
WYR
YRW
YWR
[/quote]
Now I am getting some where the one that works the best is 231 but with the 3.5 plug all the way in I get a buz and a flickering screen until I partly pull out the 3.5 plug and then get a perfect screen and no buz but only sound out of 1 speaker - the right and if I very very gently twiddle the plug I get sound out of the left speaker but not the right no amount of twiddling at 231 gets the sound out of both speakers unless it is a loud buz with no vid.

I am getting close to a beer and if that happens I may well need a new tv and PS 
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By pulling out the plug a notch you are changing the contact sequence of the wiring to the socket and plug.

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 05-01-18

(05-01-18, 08:55 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Now I am getting some where the one that works the best is 231 but with the 3.5 plug all the way in I get a buz and a flickering screen until I partly pull out the 3.5 plug and then get a perfect screen and no buz but only sound out of 1 speaker - the right and if I very very gently twiddle the plug I get sound out of the left speaker but not the right no amount of twiddling at 231 gets the sound out of both speakers unless it is a loud buz with no vid.

I am getting close to a beer and if that happens I may well need a new tv and PS 

I have created some confusion as I changed the sequence from numbers to colours. Can you say which colour order your 231 relates to?

Did you try all combinations of colours?

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 05-01-18

For reference, here is the user manual for the PS2: 

https://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/SCPH-79002CB_79003CB.pdf

What is the make and model number of your TV?


Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - fazersharp - 06-01-18

(05-01-18, 11:42 PM)stet link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23629.msg273413#msg273413 date=1515182141]

Now I am getting some where the one that works the best is 231 but with the 3.5 plug all the way in I get a buz and a flickering screen until I partly pull out the 3.5 plug and then get a perfect screen and no buz but only sound out of 1 speaker - the right and if I very very gently twiddle the plug I get sound out of the left speaker but not the right no amount of twiddling at 231 gets the sound out of both speakers unless it is a loud buz with no vid.

I am getting close to a beer and if that happens I may well need a new tv and PS 

I have created some confusion as I changed the sequence from numbers to colours. Can you say which colour order your 231 relates to?

Did you try all combinations of colours?
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I thought I understood so I labled
y = 1
R = 2
W =3 on bothe sets and ran through your list
and found 231 as described in my earlier post so
Ps red to tv yellow
ps white to tv red
ps yellow to tv white

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 06-01-18

OK.

Can you try this:

(1) Remove all PS2 BNC phono plugs.

(2) Push the four contact jack fully home into and out of the TV jack socket at least ten times (hopefully to clean the contacts and exercise the jack socket internal switch- if fitted).

(3) Connect the yellow PS2 phone plug to the TV BNC phono sockets in turn.

(4) Which connection gives you a picture (there should be no sound from the TV left or right speakers).

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - darrsi - 06-01-18

(06-01-18, 12:21 AM)stet link Wrote: OK.

Can you try this:

(1) Remove all PS2 BNC plugs.

(2) Push the four contact jack fully home into and out of the TV jack socket at least ten times (hopefully to clean the contacts and excercise the jack socket internal switch- if fitted).

(3) Connect the yellow PS2 plug to the TV BNC sockets in turn.

(4) Which connection gives you a picture (there should be no sound from the TV left or right speakers).


No BNC connectors mentioned, that would massively simplify things?

Re: Focer font of knowledge AV experts - stet - 06-01-18

(05-01-18, 09:12 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=23629.msg273412#msg273412 date=1515181755]
[quote author=unfazed link=topic=23629.msg273411#msg273411 date=1515181020]
what you are doing will never work since your are trying to get a signal "OUT" of an "IN" port.

It requires a special cable with a Sony unique plug to plug into the Sony unique PS2 "AV1 RGB" port. that will give you your Sound and video out.


[Image: s-l1600.jpg]
Thats what I have got and using
[/quote]

Wait a cotton pickin minute by all the gods I think you are on to something.
The cable in your picture has metal on the outside but mine is plastic is that the difference or is that just a better quality cable in your picture
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I hope you don't mind me answering this question which was addressed to you unfazed.

The PS2 plug with the metal on the outside is a better plug than one with a plastic outside but the metal only acts as a local screen and has no affect on the functioning of the cable (other screen connections are included on the contacts of the PS2 connector). Of course, the metal version will wear better.