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Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Bretty - 25-10-16
Sometimes "sorry" is enough... Have you had a personal injury?... You may have a claim!
personal injury is the reason why insurance premiums have quadrupled over the last decade.
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Mick-H - 25-10-16
Easily avoided, should have been on the brakes as soon as he saw the red car coming out and shouldn't have been going as fast in the first place.
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Grahamm - 25-10-16
I think the reason the driver was fined is that, according to the article, he said "I did see you were coming. I think you were driving a bit fast?".
No matter that the biker was riding like a twat, that's pretty much an admission of guilt.
Of course the biker could have (and should have) easily avoided the situation in the first place, so he gets very little sympathy from me.
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Frosties - 25-10-16
(25-10-16, 04:33 PM)Mick-H link Wrote: Easily avoided, should have been on the brakes as soon as he saw the red car coming out and shouldn't have been going as fast in the first place.
Agree - didn't brake and he had time to avoid. Lack of experience the cause. Just my 2p
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Dead Eye - 27-10-16
(24-10-16, 10:08 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Fazer99 link=topic=21273.msg244384#msg244384 date=1477340119]
After watching the video a few more times you can clearly see the bike deliberately hits the car, as he had more than enough room and time to slow down and/or swerve to the left to avoid a crash, but no he slows down and maintained a straight line.
Could be a simple case of experience versus stupidity/naivety.
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Could just as easily have been target fixation I guess
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Fazer99 - 27-10-16
(27-10-16, 09:51 AM)Dead Eye link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21273.msg244390#msg244390 date=1477343290]
[quote author=Fazer99 link=topic=21273.msg244384#msg244384 date=1477340119]
After watching the video a few more times you can clearly see the bike deliberately hits the car, as he had more than enough room and time to slow down and/or swerve to the left to avoid a crash, but no he slows down and maintained a straight line.
Could be a simple case of experience versus stupidity/naivety.
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Could just as easily have been target fixation I guess
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Possibaly, but my gut feeling is he saw an oppertunity for a payout and risked it. The lack of anger from the biker confuses the hell out of me as I would be going mental if I got knocked off my bike, which to me is another factor to my thoughts that the crash was a crazy attempt at getting a payout, either that or the biker is just a complete bellend :lol
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Dudeofrude - 27-10-16
or the biker is just a complete bellend :lol
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We'll he is an Australian pizza delivery boy.... ??
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Graham53 - 28-10-16
could it be that our Australian cousins are just very polite and friendly people :lol
Or that he realised that he's a complete twat, the sort of nob that gives bikers a bad name worldwide and should have avoided the shunt as he could have done before the Aussie compo dollars ker chinged in his eyes ....And now he feels a little bit stupid and guilty.
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - joebloggs - 28-10-16
Motorcyclists all over the world should unite (think of it as a bikers amnesty international) and petition the court to return that woman her money and get him banned from ever riding anything faster than a Puch Maxi (with stabalizers)
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Fazer99 - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 07:08 AM)joebloggs link Wrote: get him banned from ever riding anything faster than a Puch Maxi (with stabalizers)
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin LOVE IT :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - tommyardin - 28-10-16
(27-10-16, 09:51 AM)Dead Eye link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21273.msg244390#msg244390 date=1477343290]
[quote author=Fazer99 link=topic=21273.msg244384#msg244384 date=1477340119]
After watching the video a few more times you can clearly see the bike deliberately hits the car, as he had more than enough room and time to slow down and/or swerve to the left to avoid a crash, but no he slows down and maintained a straight line.
Could be a simple case of experience versus stupidity/naivety.
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Could just as easily have been target fixation I guess
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Agrees with Dead Eye.
Bike is accelerating to hard given the situation, sees his exit is being shut off from both sides, red car from left black on from right, panics, locks onto bars, shoulders freeze up and continues in a straight line, As Dead Eye said 'Target Fixation' had he not locked himself up there was both time and room to have slowed some and passed to the rear and right hand side of the black car.
One thing I would say though is that the footage from the dash or Go-Pro type cams can be very deceiving as the are often about 140 degree wide angle that makes things look further away, so the distances involved may not be as great as they at first seem. The upshot is if that was the case with shorter distances than they appear it makes the bikers case worse, the prick was still accelerating to fast.
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - tommyardin - 28-10-16
(24-10-16, 08:45 PM)Bretty link Wrote: Who accelerates in this scenario? :eek
Looking at Brett's freeze frame capture there was plenty of time to avoid that impact, the black car involved is already making their move, which I personally think is ligitimate, the red car is well out from the junction, what the F was the matter with the biker as he is still accelerating?
The distances show in Bretty's capture is about 5 vehicle lengths between the front of the bike and the rear of the black vehicle involved that is already at an angle beginning to cross lanes, well into making the manoeuvre.
Not sure what the rules governing filtering is in Australia but here in U.K they are quite strict.
it is something like when filtering you should not be going more than 10 mph faster than the traffic you are filtering through and if you filter through traffic that is doing more than 20mph it is an illeagle undertaking manoeuvre.
I Would need to check that out but it is something like that, so most bikers who filter are actually breaking the law.
If the above figures are correct you should never be doing more than 30mph when filtering, it poss that I have not got the exact figures though.
I have been on the M25 doing 30mph (yes sometimes you really can) in my car and had bikers filtering past that have scared the crap out of me, did not either see them in all their black gear on their dark bikes with not a light showing and doing far in access of 40 mph,
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - darrsi - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 10:27 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: [quote author=Bretty link=topic=21273.msg244381#msg244381 date=1477338317]
Who accelerates in this scenario? :eek
Looking at Brett's freeze frame capture there was plenty of time to avoid that impact, the black car involved is already making their move, which I personally think is ligitimate, the red car is well out from the junction, what the F was the matter with the biker as he is still accelerating?
The distances show in Bretty's capture is about 5 vehicle lengths between the front of the bike and the rear of the black vehicle involved that is already at an angle beginning to cross lanes, well into making the manoeuvre.
Not sure what the rules governing filtering is in Australia but here in U.K they are quite strict.
it is something like when filtering you should not be going more than 10 mph faster than the traffic you are filtering through and if you filter through traffic that is doing more than 20mph it is an illeagle undertaking manoeuvre.
I Would need to check that out but it is something like that, so most bikers who filter are actually breaking the law.
If the above figures are correct you should never be doing more than 30mph when filtering, it poss that I have not got the exact figures though.
I have been on the M25 doing 30mph (yes sometimes you really can) in my car and had bikers filtering past that have scared the crap out of me, did not either see them in all their black gear on their dark bikes with not a light showing and doing far in access of 40 mph,
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Not like this then?
Watch from about 4mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Dudeofrude - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 12:11 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=tommyardin link=topic=21273.msg244615#msg244615 date=1477646854]
[quote author=Bretty link=topic=21273.msg244381#msg244381 date=1477338317]
Who accelerates in this scenario? :eek
Looking at Brett's freeze frame capture there was plenty of time to avoid that impact, the black car involved is already making their move, which I personally think is ligitimate, the red car is well out from the junction, what the F was the matter with the biker as he is still accelerating?
The distances show in Bretty's capture is about 5 vehicle lengths between the front of the bike and the rear of the black vehicle involved that is already at an angle beginning to cross lanes, well into making the manoeuvre.
Not sure what the rules governing filtering is in Australia but here in U.K they are quite strict.
it is something like when filtering you should not be going more than 10 mph faster than the traffic you are filtering through and if you filter through traffic that is doing more than 20mph it is an illeagle undertaking manoeuvre.
I Would need to check that out but it is something like that, so most bikers who filter are actually breaking the law.
If the above figures are correct you should never be doing more than 30mph when filtering, it poss that I have not got the exact figures though.
I have been on the M25 doing 30mph (yes sometimes you really can) in my car and had bikers filtering past that have scared the crap out of me, did not either see them in all their black gear on their dark bikes with not a light showing and doing far in access of 40 mph,
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Not like this then?
Watch from about 4mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE
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Dangerous...yes BUT when you get that text from the other half telling you it's sex time, what else are you meant to do?
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Fazer99 - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 01:38 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Dangerous...yes BUT when you get that text from the other half telling you it's sex time, what else are you meant to do?
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - tommyardin - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 01:38 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=21273.msg244620#msg244620 date=1477653104]
[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=21273.msg244615#msg244615 date=1477646854]
[quote author=Bretty link=topic=21273.msg244381#msg244381 date=1477338317]
Who accelerates in this scenario? :eek
Looking at Brett's freeze frame capture there was plenty of time to avoid that impact, the black car involved is already making their move, which I personally think is ligitimate, the red car is well out from the junction, what the F was the matter with the biker as he is still accelerating?
The distances show in Bretty's capture is about 5 vehicle lengths between the front of the bike and the rear of the black vehicle involved that is already at an angle beginning to cross lanes, well into making the manoeuvre.
Not sure what the rules governing filtering is in Australia but here in U.K they are quite strict.
it is something like when filtering you should not be going more than 10 mph faster than the traffic you are filtering through and if you filter through traffic that is doing more than 20mph it is an illeagle undertaking manoeuvre.
I Would need to check that out but it is something like that, so most bikers who filter are actually breaking the law.
If the above figures are correct you should never be doing more than 30mph when filtering, it poss that I have not got the exact figures though.
I have been on the M25 doing 30mph (yes sometimes you really can) in my car and had bikers filtering past that have scared the crap out of me, did not either see them in all their black gear on their dark bikes with not a light showing and doing far in access of 40 mph,
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Not like this then?
Watch from about 4mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE
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Dangerous...yes BUT when you get that text from the other half telling you it's sex time, what else are you meant to do?
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I'm just 70 Dudeofrude, so do not get texts like that, and, even if I did I would fill the bike up with unleaded and and keep going the opposite way.
I would sooner have an extra spud on me plate lol!
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Graham53 - 28-10-16
And that's how they deliver pizzas in Russia , watch and learn aussies
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - darrsi - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 10:07 PM)Graham53 link Wrote: And that's how they deliver pizzas in Russia , watch and learn aussies
The method is don't give the car the chance to brake......go past it first. :lol
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Frosties - 28-10-16
(28-10-16, 02:46 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: [quote author=Dudeofrude link=topic=21273.msg244621#msg244621 date=1477658310]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=21273.msg244620#msg244620 date=1477653104]
[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=21273.msg244615#msg244615 date=1477646854]
[quote author=Bretty link=topic=21273.msg244381#msg244381 date=1477338317]
Who accelerates in this scenario? :eek
Looking at Brett's freeze frame capture there was plenty of time to avoid that impact, the black car involved is already making their move, which I personally think is ligitimate, the red car is well out from the junction, what the F was the matter with the biker as he is still accelerating?
The distances show in Bretty's capture is about 5 vehicle lengths between the front of the bike and the rear of the black vehicle involved that is already at an angle beginning to cross lanes, well into making the manoeuvre.
Not sure what the rules governing filtering is in Australia but here in U.K they are quite strict.
it is something like when filtering you should not be going more than 10 mph faster than the traffic you are filtering through and if you filter through traffic that is doing more than 20mph it is an illeagle undertaking manoeuvre.
I Would need to check that out but it is something like that, so most bikers who filter are actually breaking the law.
If the above figures are correct you should never be doing more than 30mph when filtering, it poss that I have not got the exact figures though.
I have been on the M25 doing 30mph (yes sometimes you really can) in my car and had bikers filtering past that have scared the crap out of me, did not either see them in all their black gear on their dark bikes with not a light showing and doing far in access of 40 mph,
[/quote]
Not like this then?
Watch from about 4mins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQeZpwqpE
[/quote]
Dangerous...yes BUT when you get that text from the other half telling you it's sex time, what else are you meant to do?
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[size=1em]I'm just 70 Dudeofrude, so do not get texts like that, and, even if I did I would fill the bike up with unleaded and and keep going the opposite way. [/size]
[size=1em]I would sooner have an extra spud on me plate lol![/size]
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Re: I know my thoughts......what's yours? - Bretty - 29-10-16
Here's how it's done...
https://rumble.com/v325rw-lane-splitting-motorcyclist-wrecks-into-the-back-of-a-pickup-truck.html?mref=7jwq&mc=bpxp1