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Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - tommyardin - 26-09-16
(17-09-16, 04:25 PM)Ricky link Wrote: I have has a few problems starting the FZS, properly more down to me than the bike. I have been told the advancer might help, and it would hopefully help the midrange. I find when I want to over take a car I have to go down a lot of gears, and than it still feels a bit flat.I am used to torkey twins and a GSXR 750, so may be asking to much of the Fzs.
I am hopeing to get the bike Ivanised in the spring, so do Ivansing and advancer go together, or should I just wait till the spring?
Holy shit! :eek
Ricky I read with suprise that you have to drop a load of gogs to overtake on a Gen 1 1K Fazer. I personally have never ridden one, but, I have the baby version the 'FZS600' Fox Eye, and, if I need to overtake and I am in top gear (6th) at about 60 mph, I drop 2 gears, gun it and it goes like shit off a shovel, or if you prefer a more genteel term, like a rabbit on steroids. The acceleration is vivid to say the least and one needs to keep ones wits about them as it screams up passed 13K RPM into the red very easily with front wheel tapping the tarmac as it wants to lift, select the next cog and you get a punch in the small of you back as the speed continues to rapidly climb. I would suggest you do a full service on all the things recommended in this post, that Gen 1 should almost rip your arms out of your shoulders if you gun it hard. That machine has the Modified R1 lump in it, a race bred engine softened very slightly for the road, giving it more mid range grunt at the sacrifice of a small amount of top end.
I really believe the Gen 1 is the way I will go as it has soo much to offer in power, comfort and reliability provided you keep up with the maintenance. Good luck and i hope you get it sorted and I think when you do the old GSXR 750 will not be top machine.
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - Ricky - 12-11-16
A few months on and I am now 100% sure the machinic set up the exup valve wrong and has been setting up other valves wrong for a long time.
The bike is a different bike, it makes power from start to finish. I don't have to drop a lot of gears to pass cars, and another massive difference is the starting of the bike. Before the valve was set up by me it was a pig to start, you never new what you where going to get,hot or cold, you had to give it a lot of revs to have any hope. Now it starts with very little or no revs and you don't need choke at all. Once started you need a very small amount of that throttle to keep it ticking over when cold. I don't even use the choke at the minute, but may have to if weather gets very cold.
I did not realise just how important the exup valve is and I wonder how others have managed with badly or struck or even with it removed?
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - Falcon 269 - 13-11-16
On the Gen 1, the EXUP needs to be in good working order and properly adjusted to get the best out of the motor. Some - a few - will tell you that they removed theirs or wired it open with no ill effects. Most will say otherwise.
Believe the majority.
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - ogri48 - 13-11-16
Glad you got it sorted. As others have said, the torque available from these lumps is phenonemal, especially given how long ago they came about in the original bike. Mine pulls in top from 25mph..I've taken to riding it on my everyday commute like a 1000 cc twist and go, stick it in top and leave it there, even through the villages down to Chepstow. Helluva bike, they really are
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - Ricky - 13-11-16
My bike will run in 6th gear at 800 rpm about 18 mph and keep going all the way to flat out. It does this even when the exup was not set up properly. I do love the way that I am not up and down the box.
I had a BMW GS 1200 wc which if you went below 1400 it would be like a switch and just die, it was not nice.
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - AyJay - 13-11-16
I agree Ricky, it's that ability to pull from 18 to 160mph that makes Fazer's so usable. I spend a lot of time lane splitting on motorways and it means I have the time to focus all my attention on the traffic, not the gearbox. The technical aspect of riding the machine gets out of way and you just ride. Want to go fast, get it past 7000rpm, want to potter through a town, just do it, want to over take in a 60 limit when you're tired, just open the throttle. It's simple and accessible.
The DCT VFR could have been like this but even with its auto mode, it just wasn't as controllable. It seemed to have it's own ideas of how it should be ridden. Fazer's don't. They do the rider's bidding.
Re: 4 degree ignition advancer are their worth fitting? - tommyardin - 24-11-16
Great post
I really enjoyed reading it, and I feel I have been armed with some useful info if and when I go down the Gen 1 route. :woot :thumbup