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Re: Donald Trump - fazersharp - 11-12-15
(09-12-15, 07:45 PM)dazza link Wrote: So, let's get this right. Trumps a self made man, so he's nobody's puppet, he says it how it is, doesn't give a fuck about being politically correct and you think he's a knob, During the second world war all German and Austrian born citizens were rounded up and interned, so what's so bad about not letting anymore potential terrorists into the country.........Oh, and .......http://l-bc.co/cet61T
He says things that others are scared to, and is gleefully mis- quoted out of context by the left wing media, -- he was saying that there should be a halt UNTIL it is sorted and understood what is going on, the second half and most reasonable part of that is not reported
Re: Donald Trump - mtread - 11-12-15
'Sorted' ? How ? 9/11 was 14 years ago, and we don't seem to have 'sorted it' since then.
And Trump is saying that American born citizens who are Muslim cannot re-enter the USA if they leave. Including Muhammed Ali, the greatest boxer the world has ever known?
Trump is a complete idiot. He doesn't need to be misquoted. I bet that next he will suggest they need to sow little yellow crescents on their clothes. You know, just so they can be easily identified.
Re: Donald Trump - dazza - 11-12-15
(11-12-15, 12:10 AM)mtread link Wrote:Any argument you give now is invalid.Quote:During the second world war all German and Austrian born citizens were rounded up and internedSo were the Jews, and that didn't turn out too well :eek
Donald Trump is a complete arse. For once I agree with Boris
You have just compared our necessary but effective decision at the time to intern any possible Nazi sympathizers who were housed in relative comfort and released unharmed to the systematic annihilation of a complete race to satisfy a mad man..... Good one :lol
Just a thought..... If you had a packet of sweets and 1% of them were poisoned, how many would you give to your children?
Re: Donald Trump - slimwilly - 11-12-15
Donald Trump is a star , hope he comes to England and takes a walk down Luton high street
Re: Donald Trump - pilninggas - 11-12-15
It's a shame that the middle ground solution cannot be the answer: Don't ban all muslims, but ban any that appear on the intelligence radar of any country that be trusted (fellow NATO and trusted EU nations) - any doubt, sorry you stay out. I bloody resent the fact that we allow hate preachers, known dissidents, HAMAS sponsors and known insurgents in, or worse they get in illegally and then when we find they (and their stated funded lawyers and nazi-sympathisers like CAGE) cry Human Rights and appeal deportation (and this applies to 'asylum seekers' too). I also don't get how some one like Tyson Fury is chastised for using Homophobic language, yet Captain Hook used it repeatedly during outside preaching in North London and nothing was done (in fact the media has backed off Fury, couldn't be because they found out he is from another 'persecuted' minority, could it?). Look at Michael Adjebalajo now trying to sue the MoJ for assault by prison officers; where do thes nazis get off - he should have been kicked out the day MI5 found out he had islamonazi tendencies. Or that father who blame the MET for his kid fucking off to Syria, until a video showed him at a Nazi rally in Bedforshire.
The apologists are so worried about the rights of our fascist enemies that they cravenly bow to their rights before that of the greater, honest, decent majority (most of whom are now arreligious and find the whole thing archaic and tedious).
Trump just used the message the average middle Septic would understand and didn't drape it in PC language. If we ban Trump from the UK, can we ban any scumbag with fascist sympathies too? I'd take that like a shot.
Re: Donald Trump - mtread - 11-12-15
Dazza, I think you need to read your history
Re: Donald Trump - Exupnut - 11-12-15
U guys should go onto YouTube and type in Noam Chomsky isis.....bit of an eye opener.
Re: Donald Trump - dazza - 11-12-15
(11-12-15, 09:05 AM)mtread link Wrote: Dazza, I think you need to read your historyFor what planet? :lol
Re: Donald Trump - mtread - 11-12-15
So are you (like Trump) suggesting we inter all 'possible' terrorist sympathisers? All UK Muslims? 2.7million. How are you going to do that?
Re: Donald Trump - dazza - 11-12-15
I'm not suggesting anything, I merely stated that we took precautionary measures during world war 2 to prevent any possible Nazi sympathizers giving away any vital information to the enemy. A controversial subject at the time and now but necessary to eliminate all risk.
We are now seeing an unprecedented number or refugees flooding into our countries with no way of detecting how many of them are extremist sleeper cells intent on doing us harm. This raises the stakes as far as I can see and Trump just may have it right to call on a temporary ban until our security services can adequately vet them.
This is why I made the comparison to our internment of Germans and Austrians, drastic times call for drastic measures.
You, on the other hand, likened it to the Holocaust, How can you justify that ?
Our politically correct and liberal attitude society is a weakness and being exploited by an evil enemy who obeys no rules.
This is the reason we need people who aren't afraid to speak out and take drastic action if necessary to protect our citizens.
My 12 year old girl is too frightened to go shopping at Bluewater for fear of a terrorist attack. Is this what you want for our children.
Even the Police admit some areas are practically no go zones, it is our Government who are in denial.
You take a walk around Brick Lane at night, it takes on a whole different demeana at night and tell me if you feel safe in your own country.
I am not anti Muslim, I work with many and consider a lot of them friends. I have had many in depth conversations trying to understand their take on it all and they all say the same thing. Because of the teachings of the Quran, they understand why these extremist do the things they do but they don't agree with the way they do it. These have chosen peace but it is worrying that they have an element of understanding. How to you vet that ? What made that couple in the latest shooting in America go hell bent on murdering leaving their child an orphan.
Our world is faced with a dangerous ideology and NO, I don't have any answers.
Re: Donald Trump - midden - 11-12-15
(11-12-15, 12:10 AM)mtread link Wrote:Quote:Why (Rooney would you spend all that money on a transplant and then have it cut really shortBecause where it was transplanted from, it only grows short and curly
Quote:During the second world war all German and Austrian born citizens were rounded up and internedSo were the Jews, and that didn't turn out too well :eek
Donald Trump is a complete arse. For once I agree with Boris
Mtread are you a bandit? Coz you're just swapping one arse for another...........
All that money spent and inconvenience caused only for cyclists to stay riding in the car lanes and on pavements
Re: Donald Trump - lew600fazer - 12-12-15
When the IRA kicked off in Northern Ireland the Government of the day at the request of the police introduced the special powers act. If you looked like a republican and acted like a republican you got banged up without trial or a likely release date. The Westminster Government told Stormont the N Ireland government, you cannot do that, it is against their human rights, so a lot of the Republicans were released . Over 3500 people died in N Ireland all be it at the hands of the so called Loyalists & Republicans. Westminster has always been soft on terrorists. Just saying!!!!!!!
To me anyone who commits or intends to commit a terrorist act against the civilian population has forfeited their own human rights.
Re: Donald Trump - mtread - 12-12-15
Getting back onto to the subject, I see the petition to ban Trump from the UK has passed half a million, while the one to let him in has stuck at 34k. Says it all really ☺ Now let's get back to talking about bikes
Re: Donald Trump - pilninggas - 12-12-15
(12-12-15, 01:55 AM)mtread link Wrote: Getting back onto to the subject, I see the petition to ban Trump from the UK has passed half a million, while the one to let him in has stuck at 34k. Says it all really ☺ Now let's get back to talking about bikes
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Ignore the 'roided moron on the right....
Re: Donald Trump - Exupnut - 12-12-15
.......and the eroded moron in the middle.
Re: Donald Trump - mtread - 12-12-15
That comb over is not going to survive 10+ mph
Re: Donald Trump - VNA - 12-12-15
Quote:We are now seeing an unprecedented number or refugees flooding into our countries with no way of detecting how many of them are extremist sleeper cells intent on doing us harm.
Two things - 1. you ain't seen nothing yet. 2. It's cos we have been bombing the shit out of them, and indeed further destabilised the region. Oh make it 3, they are human beings.
Quote:Our politically correct and liberal attitude society is a weakness and being exploited by an evil enemy who obeys no rules.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria. 100,000's dead and millions of refugees. So who is evil and who is terrorist?
Quote:Is this what you want for our children.
What about the children of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. What of them?
Quote:These have chosen peace but it is worrying that they have an element of understanding.
It's a pity more people don't understand.
Re: Donald Trump - lew600fazer - 13-12-15
Yea you are right , Sadam, the Taliban , Assad , Gadaffi all jolly good chaps.
Re: Donald Trump - noggythenog - 13-12-15
Trumps solution in my opinion was just dickish....i much more favour just ousting anyone on the terror list or anyone they are connected to & let the innocents stay.....or just kill them...either way really.
We all seem to live in the past & i just wonder what would actually happen if we did just do nothing abroad in syria & iraq ......as of tomorrow.....not a thing....just sit back & relax......and the other countries too...........what will happen???will they all just make up?
Plus i very much doubt that it is bombs that are making the immigrants come here......more likely to be knife wielding maniacs......id much rather be bombed than have my head hacked off with a rambo knife.
Re: Donald Trump - lew600fazer - 13-12-15
One of the problems with people like VNA is they think there is good in everybody