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Re: Jihad John gone - bri h - 14-11-15
I dont think being a muslim will help noggy cos those cyclepaths have killed thousands of them. I recon your right about it coming our way as i believe that a good portion of the refugees from syria are up to no good
. i still feel sorry for the inocent ones but how do you tell the difference before they go bang.
Re: Jihad John gone - slappy - 14-11-15
Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Re: Jihad John gone - pilninggas - 14-11-15
(14-11-15, 12:23 PM)slappy link Wrote: Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Spot on; like that idiot 'Human rights' lawyer at CAGE who was all loved up about Nazi Jihadi John and kept banging on about his right to be a complete islamofascist. There's a strong case for interning the lawyer for being an enemy of the state and the people.
Re: Jihad John gone - noggythenog - 14-11-15
(14-11-15, 12:23 PM)slappy link Wrote: Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Bri has a point....skin colour or religion doesn't seem to have helped in Iraq or Syria....although allot is said about Shiite and sunni....seems to be the excuse behind allot of it.
I actually don't believe the rubbish that the majority of muslims and other minority groups involved are so against the evils...did they do a poll of every single person including thousands of illegals??... did they ask them......do you a love the uk...b hate the uk....or c....say you love the uk but secretly are plotting against it..........it's a completely made up statistic.as you say...what the foc are they doing about it...nothing.....they passively condone it by allowing it to continue amongst their ranks......they preach it behind closed doors to their families...the women don't get any say whatsoever so that's a big chunk of their populations opinions or views completely void before you even get to the blokes...kind of like the rest of us who moan about politicians all day long and then go and elect them....we have become a spineless population led by baffoons and we continue to sleepwalk straight into disaster.
Re: Jihad John gone - bri h - 14-11-15
I think one of the biggest contributions to this shit is the wahabbi nonsense but it comes from Saudi Arabia and they sell us their oil so its ok :\
Re: Jihad John gone - pilninggas - 14-11-15
(14-11-15, 12:52 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: [quote author=slappy link=topic=18723.msg216010#msg216010 date=1447500217]
Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Bri has a point....skin colour or religion doesn't seem to have helped in Iraq or Syria....although allot is said about Shiite and sunni....seems to be the excuse behind allot of it.
I actually don't believe the rubbish that the majority of muslims and other minority groups involved are so against the evils...did they do a poll of every single person including thousands of illegals??... did they ask them......do you a love the uk...b hate the uk....or c....say you love the uk but secretly are plotting against it..........it's a completely made up statistic.as you say...what the foc are they doing about it...nothing.....they passively condone it by allowing it to continue amongst their ranks......they preach it behind closed doors to their families...the women don't get any say whatsoever so that's a big chunk of their populations opinions or views completely void before you even get to the blokes...kind of like the rest of us who moan about politicians all day long and then go and elect them....we have become a spineless population led by baffoons and we continue to sleepwalk straight into disaster.
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Re: Jihad John gone - lew600fazer - 14-11-15
(14-11-15, 09:45 AM)joebloggs link Wrote: You state we should have freedom of speech then contradict yourself saying that every one should dress in western clothingNo I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so. But there in lies a problem perhaps we would create more understanding if there were no such things as predominantly Black , White or any other ethnic melting pot. In places like Saudi Arabia, Iran etc there is no such thing as free speech or even freedom of dress code. The west is far to tolerant but I think the goal posts may just have been moved last night.
Would you walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody nigger?
Re: Jihad John gone - VNA - 14-11-15
Quote:No I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Nice one Lew.
Aye there was poor DC standing in front of No.10 with his chest puffed oot - 'We've got Jihadi John' and I'm gonna milk this for all it is politically worth. But then.......
Yes what has just happened in France is an absolute outrage. It is absolutely disgusting.
Quote:luckily for us we have a smaller area to cover, the English channel and better intelligence
Yes being a small island has it's advantages. It also reduces the chances of any of the small arms that we are happy to sell to pretty much anybody around the world slipping back onto our shores.
But better intelligence? I ain't so sure about that. And certainly the French had the good sense to have nothing to do with the 2003 invasion of Iraq - why because they knew, indeed they were absolutely certain that our 'intelligence' was bull shit. In fact most of the people in our intelligence services, at least the people that count, knew our intelligence was bull shit.
Quote:stand by everyone...not an if but when.......and it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done......if you aren't Islamic then you are a target....simple as that.
Absolutely, it's gonna happen again, and again. And they don't give a shit who you are, not even being Islamic will save you.
But meanwhile,
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Total so far - 224,000
Recent events;
Recent Events Friday 13 November: 51 killed. Baghdad: 32 by suicide bomber, IEDs and gunfire; 2 bodies.
Sinjar: 10 executed.
Baaj: 4 executed.
Yusufiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 lawyer by gunfire.
Thursday 12 November: 13 killed Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire.
Tuz Khurmato: 5 in clashes.
Tuz: 1 doctor by gunfire.
Wednesday 11 November: 109 killed Mosul: 7 family members in coalition air strike; 60 executed.
Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Tal Afar: 7 in coalition air strikes; 1 executed.
Hawija: 15 in Iraqi army air strikes.
Albu Fahad: 5 family members in booby-trapped house.
Shirqat: 1 by gunfire; 1 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Basra: 2 by gunfire.
Tuesday 10 November: 19 killed Baghdad: 16 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Alexandria: 1 body.
Al-Salam: 1 by IED.
Monday 9 November: 25 killed. Baghdad: 7 by IEDs; 1 body.
Qayyarah: 11 by coalition air strikes.
Mosul: 3 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 by IED.
Sunday 8 November: 27 killed Baghdad: 15 by IEDs, gunfire; 3 bodies.
Mosul: 3 executed for theft.
Hamam al-Alil: 3 doctors executed.
Yusufiya: 1 by IED.
Latifiya: 1 by gunfire.
Wajihiya: 1 body.
Saturday 7 November: 23 killed. Baghdad: 8 by IEDs; 6 bodies.
Tarmiya: 3 policemen by suicide bomber.
Kara Tepe: 3 by IEDs.
Mahmudiya: 2 by AED.
Kirkuk: 1 body.
Just saying.
Re: Jihad John gone - pilninggas - 14-11-15
(14-11-15, 07:53 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:No I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Nice one Lew.
Aye there was poor DC standing in front of No.10 with his chest puffed oot - 'We've got Jihadi John' and I'm gonna milk this for all it is politically worth. But then.......
Yes what has just happened in France is an absolute outrage. It is absolutely disgusting.
Quote:luckily for us we have a smaller area to cover, the English channel and better intelligence
Yes being a small island has it's advantages. It also reduces the chances of any of the small arms that we are happy to sell to pretty much anybody around the world slipping back onto our shores.
But better intelligence? I ain't so sure about that. And certainly the French had the good sense to have nothing to do with the 2003 invasion of Iraq - why because they knew, indeed they were absolutely certain that our 'intelligence' was bull shit. In fact most of the people in our intelligence services, at least the people that count, knew our intelligence was bull shit.
Quote:stand by everyone...not an if but when.......and it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done......if you aren't Islamic then you are a target....simple as that.
Absolutely, it's gonna happen again, and again. And they don't give a shit who you are, not even being Islamic will save you.
But meanwhile,
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Total so far - 224,000
Recent events;
Recent Events Friday 13 November: 51 killed. Baghdad: 32 by suicide bomber, IEDs and gunfire; 2 bodies.
Sinjar: 10 executed.
Baaj: 4 executed.
Yusufiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 lawyer by gunfire.
Thursday 12 November: 13 killed Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire.
Tuz Khurmato: 5 in clashes.
Tuz: 1 doctor by gunfire.
Wednesday 11 November: 109 killed Mosul: 7 family members in coalition air strike; 60 executed.
Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Tal Afar: 7 in coalition air strikes; 1 executed.
Hawija: 15 in Iraqi army air strikes.
Albu Fahad: 5 family members in booby-trapped house.
Shirqat: 1 by gunfire; 1 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Basra: 2 by gunfire.
Tuesday 10 November: 19 killed Baghdad: 16 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Alexandria: 1 body.
Al-Salam: 1 by IED.
Monday 9 November: 25 killed. Baghdad: 7 by IEDs; 1 body.
Qayyarah: 11 by coalition air strikes.
Mosul: 3 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 by IED.
Sunday 8 November: 27 killed Baghdad: 15 by IEDs, gunfire; 3 bodies.
Mosul: 3 executed for theft.
Hamam al-Alil: 3 doctors executed.
Yusufiya: 1 by IED.
Latifiya: 1 by gunfire.
Wajihiya: 1 body.
Saturday 7 November: 23 killed. Baghdad: 8 by IEDs; 6 bodies.
Tarmiya: 3 policemen by suicide bomber.
Kara Tepe: 3 by IEDs.
Mahmudiya: 2 by AED.
Kirkuk: 1 body.
Just saying.
At no time was anyone with a shred of common sense convinced about the Iraq invasion - when experts like Hans Blick were saying no WMD, still Blair kept saying 45 minutes to attack us (actually Cyprus) - I never bought the lie, not once. I will never, ever for the life of me understand how Labour maintained a majority at the 2005 GE after what that lying scumbag did to the Iraqis and our troops. And Chilcott will only be establishment revisionism with Blair and cronies getting their tentacles into it.
Re: Jihad John gone - noggythenog - 14-11-15
Iraq is currently pretty fucked up as highlighted by your stats there vna...not a nice place to be......especially for the pussies supposed to be defending it who appear to just run away...i hope those kurds are better appreciated after it all for being the only ones to bother.....the others, .they live there & even they cant be bothered defending the shithole...clearly religion isnt providing them with a pair of balls whereby most of our combat infantry with barely a religious bone between them would ive no doubt put in a good effort if faced with such an invasion force...
But anyway maybe thats not fair as like you say we wrongly invaded iraq in the first place which i dont disagree with but it wasnt based on our intelligence sources being crap...you can lead the horse to water n all that...there was obviously a will at the time to manipulate information for desired outcome at the time.....i still stand by our intelligence services being supreme and i firmly believe that they have already thwarted multiple attacks in the UK whereby france seems less capable to do so.
Im pro millitary.......just as well those weapons we sell werent slipping back over here coz id be up for owning some of that serious hardware & eating into my bike fund to defend myself against these arseholes........ok the usa dont exactly have a good record at the moment with firearms but ive always thought there would need to be a god for anyone daft enough to invade them.....hillbillies, pensioners & general hoo yas everywhere & armed to the teeth & all backed up with a much looser but no less empowering sense of crazy godliness.....thats before they even encounter the millitary......at least they stand up for themselves.....and so where are the jihadis going.....europe...land of the gimps...easy pickings.
I dont pretend that our fine countrys interests abroad are innocent.......i understand we have "interests"....maybe we torture a few here and there........bit it pales into insignificance when you have a group routinely chopping off heads and raping children...thats a different realm altogether........and 1 less murdering rapist in this world can only be a good thing.
Re: Jihad John gone - fazersharp - 14-11-15
Noggy for PM --- no president of the world (I don't jest )
Re: Jihad John gone - VNA - 14-11-15
Quote:Iraq is currently pretty fucked up as highlighted by your stats there vna...not a nice place to be.
Indeed, and it's 'our' mess.
As is Afghanistan, and Libya, not to mention Syria.
On top of that our friends in the M.E. are the very people who created, nurtured, promoted and funded the Wahhabism movement around the globe.
Further, Iran proved, some years ago, to many in the M.E that if you wish to be free of western tyranny then religious fanaticism is one way to go - it worked. And do please note that, Iran, part of Bush's axis of evil, as far as I can remember has invaded no other country and shows no signs of wishing to do so.
The Turkish attitude/issue towards the Kurds is a major issue, and one reason why IS can possibly access Europe fairly easily.
Of course the Kurds know they are being used by the west. But what choice have they got, but I rather doubt they see us as friends. The Peshmerga are reasonably competent at times, but the real hard core fighters are within the KPP, unfortunately the UK and USA have listed them as a terrorist organisation.
Quote:i still stand by our intelligence services being supreme
Full of extremely intelligent people dishing out incredibly dumb advice.
Our foreign policy over the last few decades - well you'd have to try hard to come up with anything dumber - or more murderous.
And what foccing use anyway is an 'intelligence' service that is prepared to allow lunatic politicians to tell them what to put in their reports! Doh.
Re: Jihad John gone - VNA - 14-11-15
Quote:just as well those weapons we sell werent slipping back over here coz..........
DC has made it clear that economic considerations come before human rights.
That basically means selling arms to whoever wants em.
Re: Jihad John gone - taylor - 14-11-15
they should have had him done up the wrong un, then tortured the fucking tosser, SCUM.
Re: Jihad John gone - lew600fazer - 14-11-15
Not defending Blair here but has to be said up to the 11th hour he tried to persuade Bush not to go into Iraq. Bush told him fuck you we will do it without you. I do not know what hold the USA has over the UK but we ended up going in. Wrongly in my opinion by the way.
Re: Jihad John gone - nickodemon - 14-11-15
This issue has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with race, religion or culture. Religion divides people and was created to make people behave and have a god who made them behave in a civilised manner, but now all religions hate each other, which has caused trouble all over the world. I may sound extreme, but i don't believe in religion as it was made to control the masses.
Re: Jihad John gone - slappy - 15-11-15
Totally agree, and when religion doesn' t do the job then in step the politicians.
Re: Jihad John gone - bri h - 15-11-15
I'm sure politicians and the ruling classes have used religion as tool to bend people to their will since the beginning of time. IS however have gone beyond this in the same way the nazis did.They have changed islam into an excuse to murder rape and destroy. The whole world regardless of religion or nationality need to unite and remove them from the face of the earth. Is on the other hand carry out these atrocities to get a rection that they can use to show the west are the bad guys. Having served in the Navy I'm against the use of extreme violence but in this case they should be treated like the cancer they are and removed.
Re: Jihad John gone - bri h - 15-11-15
Of course I should point out that dropping bombs on innocent people only helps the arms dealers.
Re: Jihad John gone - joebloggs - 15-11-15
I wish the press etc would stop using the term Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist etc all this does is enforce peoples oppinion's that all Muslims are bad people, sure they are culturally different, but is this really an issue.
A couple of years ago I went to Diwali in Leicester, my friends at work though I was mad to even consider going, although it was they who missed out. My girlfriend and I were treat like gods, people giving us treats and drinks or suggesting what to buy. We were almost carried by an excited crowd to the park where there were dancers, music and an amazing fireworks display, fantastic night out and at no time did we feel unwanted or uncomfortable.