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Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 09-10-15

Your just a tad too far for me to come and check it out for you :b


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 09-10-15

im sure its all connected properly, ive had them in and out a lot, i cannot work it out and ive spent a fair bit on bulbs + ballasts + harness's now its irritating me.


next step is rip it out fit one of those "100W" leds and some cooling and blind everyone for my own seeing ability Big Grin


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 09-10-15

(09-10-15, 10:22 PM)Paulfzs link Wrote:im sure its all connected properly, ive had them in and out a lot, i cannot work it out and ive spent a fair bit on bulbs + ballasts + harness's now its irritating me.


next step is rip it out fit one of those "100W" leds and some cooling and blind everyone for my own seeing ability Big Grin
Or just go to specsavers :lol

But seriously, as you've had the connections in and out alot, it'd be worth checking all the internal connectors are sound, also slightly pull each of the wires that go into the plugs to ensure they are seated correctly, amazingly as they're generally all made in China,  some do slip through the net :b and this could of been your problem from the beginning.


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 09-10-15

few pics..


dip beam (hid)

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main beam (spotlights)



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Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

You deffinetly have a problem there Paul, and adjusting the aim might not be the answer as you don't seem to have any decent power  coming from the HID, if you did, that road sign would be reflected alot more than it is. (Just look how it's brighter with your spots hitting it) but the HID hitting it would be alot brighter.


What's the difference when you had a nightbreaker in there?


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

Some pics of the HID I use.


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

These are the connections you really need to make sure are sound and not loose.
(and the male side that goes into the red plug that I never took a pic of)


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 10-10-15

the nightbreaker is about the same distance just a bit whiter.


youre only using 35w and brighter than my 55w.. something is definately wrong. and its a cheapy chinese one too by the look of the writing.


i have 2 of those wires for the ballast too..

i cant work out what it could be ...


i think im going to disconnect my mobility scooter battery and try using it to power the hid in the bike see how it goes... that will tell me if its power or something else.


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

Yeah, 35w ballast is what I've got, I thought it was 55w tbh but still bright and sharp beam pattern.

Was out with my mate and his was a bit temperamental, we discovered that the red block connector had a connection loose, hence the reason I said to check everything Smile

Are you getting enough power at the light switch on the handlebars? If they're a bit iffy that won't help either, also I've got the dual light mod but my connections are sound, maybe worth checking that too, the more power drawing from your light system might be a problem too. Try disconnecting your spot lights completely to see if that improves your HID on it's own Smile


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 10-10-15

disconnected spots even though they only come on with main beam and no difference.


i removed the sidelight bulb too, and no change.


ill get my volt meter out and see what im getting from the switch, it still does the same if im taking it straight from the battery too which is weird.






Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

I also noticed, looking back at the pic of your ballast your using, that yours doesn't have the 'black box', I was lead to believe that you need this to boost power from 12v to the 23000v needed for the HID's


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 10-10-15

(10-10-15, 01:48 PM)sinto link Wrote:I also noticed, looking back at the pic of your ballast your using, that yours doesn't have the 'black box', I was lead to believe that you need this to boost power from 12v to the 23000v needed for the HID's


Thats my old ballast that went pop, my new one has a box on it the same as yours.


Do you know how the power should go to the bulbs? if its a steady current or pulses?


When my bulb went a while back i didnt realise it was all powered up still and i unplugged the bulb and got a pulsing current like a spark plug zapping me repeatedly.. was pretty painful!


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

(10-10-15, 01:59 PM)Paulfzs link Wrote:[quote author=sinto link=topic=18446.msg212640#msg212640 date=1444481297]
I also noticed, looking back at the pic of your ballast your using, that yours doesn't have the 'black box', I was lead to believe that you need this to boost power from 12v to the 23000v needed for the HID's


Thats my old ballast that went pop, my new one has a box on it the same as yours.

Ahh right


Do you know how the power should go to the bulbs? if its a steady current or pulses?


When my bulb went a while back i didnt realise it was all powered up still and i unplugged the bulb and got a pulsing current like a spark plug zapping me repeatedly.. was pretty painful!


Yes it pulses as my mate and I found out while trying to sort his out and yes I agree, painful :eek[/quote]


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

Unless you've got a spare ballast or bulb it's hard to check which one isn't working correctly, you can get a spare ballast here http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321767419057&alt=web or I could maybe send you my spare one to try it and see how you go with it?


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 10-10-15

Ok so just tried direct to my mobility scooter battery... 12v 22ah! heated up fine as normal and then started flickering like it does with my normal battery..


tried different wiring and no joy.


still not brighter and flickers still...


must be the ballast ive been through like 7 bulbs trying.


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 10-10-15

(10-10-15, 08:04 PM)Paulfzs link Wrote:Ok so just tried direct to my mobility scooter battery... 12v 22ah! heated up fine as normal and then started flickering like it does with my normal battery..


tried different wiring and no joy.


still not brighter and flickers still...


must be the ballast ive been through like 7 bulbs trying.

Two choices mate,
Either send it to me or I send you my spare one to try?
Mind you, trying it on YOUR mobility scooter raises more questions than answers!  :pokefun


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 10-10-15

think im going to try another ballast, might spend a bit more on one and see where i end up, a friend of mine had a hid on his fazer so will ask him how bad mine is compared to what his was


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 11-10-15

Keep us posted on the outcome Smile
Can you post a pic from the front of the bike with the HID on?


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - sinto607276 - 13-10-15

So I managed to get some pics in the dark.
1st dipped beam HID
2nd full beam not HID
3rd dipped beam HID
4th full beam not HID

Remember, I'm running a HID on my dipped beam on the nearside but on the H4 (offside) it's just an osram nightbreaker.


Re: boxeye hid.. anyone got any pics? - Paulfzs - 14-10-15

yeah.. mines not even 1/4 of that!


what battery do you have how many ah?


how is yours wired? the 2 spade connectors into the headlight plug and thats it?

if so thats the same as mine...


i must have a dodgy ballast...


no point you sending me a bulb or ballast to test itll be the same price to post as buying one on ebay


also your high beam is 10x better than mine....


what the hell is going on with my headlights!!


ive tried a 100w bulb in main and its not even that bright!


Just realised your ballast is dc > ac, googlings leads me to believe dc = crap.


i need to check my 35w non slim non digital ballast im sure thats ac and that didn't flicker i don't think