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Re: Makes my blood boil - richfzs - 02-01-15
(01-01-15, 05:52 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote: He said Jewish people chase money more than anyone else?? what is anti semitic about that it is a well known fact.
There you go Lew - short of using the word bastard, you've said exactly what VNA accused you of.
(01-01-15, 05:52 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote: The FA were pressured by the Board of deputies of British Jews.
Got any evidence to support that?
Re: Makes my blood boil - richfzs - 02-01-15
(02-01-15, 05:28 PM)Exupnut link Wrote: Advantage Lew
Nah, not really.
Re: Makes my blood boil - lew600fazer - 02-01-15
He said Jewish people chase money more than anyone else??
The above is as stated by David Whelan direct copy and paste,
The bit I added is, what is anti sematic about that, it is a well known fact. There is nothing anti sematic about it, tell me that people of that faith are not adept at making money.
The FA were pressured by the Board of Deputies of British Jews.
Suggest you read comments made by Johnathan Arkush in any of the tabloids or broad sheet newspapers.
Richfzs, my moan about VNA's post is I never said what he has posted.
So if I make a statement that in years gone by the Irish were perhaps considered to be adept for being navies as in digging ditches, that is a well known fact, is that racist?
Re: Makes my blood boil - Simon.Pieman - 02-01-15
(02-01-15, 06:14 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote:
So if I make a statement that in years gone by the Irish were perhaps considered to be adept for being navies as in digging ditches, that is a well known fact, is that racist?
I agree with you. Some people confuse racism with pointing out that some people fit their stereotype -which is hardly a major crime against humanity.
Re: Makes my blood boil - pilgo - 02-01-15
(02-01-15, 05:29 PM)richfzs link Wrote: [quote author=lew600fazer link=topic=15614.msg178683#msg178683 date=1420131135]
He said Jewish people chase money more than anyone else?? what is anti semitic about that it is a well known fact.
There you go Lew - short of using the word bastard, you've said exactly what VNA accused you of.
where? [/quote]
Re: Makes my blood boil - Doddsie - 02-01-15
British gets shortened to Brit... no one gives a shit. Pakistani gets shortened to Paki and all hell breaks out. No one wants to hear racism but, things need to be put into proportion. People are always gonna draw a point towards whatever stands out about someone. If someone has a big nose and you call them a big nosed twat, it gets laughed off. if someone is black and you call them a black twat, you are a racist. Calling a fat person a `fat bastard` is just as offensive to them as calling a black person a `black bastard`
but can anybody here honestly say they have never been `fattist` baldist` `religionist` `childist` `uglyist` etc?
Nigger isnt a word I ever use, but its kinda funny how everyone shouts racist when its used, unless you just happen to be a black rapper, then its used in every song going!!
The biggest problem I have with all this isnt the people it involves, its the `do gooders` who stir things up in the name of racism. You can no longer call it a black board, thats racist..... no, fuck off, its a board, its black... its a black board!!! No black person has ever been insulted by it being called a black board any more than any white person is offended by `whitewash`.
As I said earlier, no one wants to hear racism, but lets keep things in perspective.
Re: Makes my blood boil - pilgo - 02-01-15
(02-01-15, 07:54 PM)Doddsie link Wrote: British gets shortened to Brit... no one gives a shit. Pakistani gets shortened to Paki and all hell breaks out. No one wants to hear racism but, things need to be put into proportion. People are always gonna draw a point towards whatever stands out about someone. If someone has a big nose and you call them a big nosed twat, it gets laughed off. if someone is black and you call them a black twat, you are a racist. Calling a fat person a `fat bastard` is just as offensive to them as calling a black person a `black bastard`
but can anybody here honestly say they have never been `fattist` baldist` `religionist` `childist` `uglyist` etc?
Nigger isnt a word I ever use, but its kinda funny how everyone shouts racist when its used, unless you just happen to be a black rapper, then its used in every song going!!
The biggest problem I have with all this isnt the people it involves, its the `do gooders` who stir things up in the name of racism. You can no longer call it a black board, thats racist..... no, fuck off, its a board, its black... its a black board!!! No black person has ever been insulted by it being called a black board any more than any white person is offended by `whitewash`.
As I said earlier, no one wants to hear racism, but lets keep things in perspective.
pa!! trying being ginger like me !! THEN your'll know all about being picked on :lol
Re: Makes my blood boil - Doddsie - 02-01-15
God helps those who help themselves.....
Re: Makes my blood boil - pilgo - 02-01-15
(02-01-15, 08:05 PM)Doddsie link Wrote: God helps those who help themselves.....
isnt that a quote from above the doors into parliment that the mp's go through ?! :evil
Re: Makes my blood boil - Gingernutz - 02-01-15
He said Jewish people chase money more than anyone else?? what is anti semitic about that it is a well known fact
Prejudice – A negative or hostile attitude/opinion based, not on actual factual information, but on a prejudgement depending on stereotypes about a whole group
Seems to me Lew you are mistaking a commonly held prejudice as a fact. The bottom line for me - how would a member of the community referred to react to the comment being made. Not sure? Then dont say it. But why would a Jewish person object ? Wiki is not always a reliable source for obscure material but is helpful for issues like this.
'Jews have often been stereotyped as greedy and money-mad. This originates in the Middle Ages, when the Church forbade Christians to lend money while charging interest (a practice called usury, although the word later took on the meaning of charging excessive interest). Jews were legally restricted to occupations as usurers, usually to Christians, and thus many went into money-lending. This led to, through the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, the association of Jews with greedy practices.
I'm a Mick - said as a growl or in a snide way I know what is being said. But at least sometimes something positive results. Working as a nurse a rich patient complaining about NHS breakfasts - said to me 'what do you know - I've seen your sort cooking your breakfast on a shovel by the side of the road'.
And the positive? This story led to the annual shovel pizza cooking by big Ralphie a treat not to be missed.
Re: Makes my blood boil - lew600fazer - 02-01-15
My bitch is that VNA has accused me of saying that Jews are money grabbing bastards. Follow the posts at no time did I use those words.
Re: Makes my blood boil - mtread - 02-01-15
Quote:Jewish people chase money more than anyone elseLike .....
All paddys are thick
All Scots are mean
All black fellas have natural rythmn
Are these 'well known facts' too? All a bit pathetic isn't it ? Stereotyping is prejudice. We are all individuals, unclassified.
As to 'racist words'. It's the context and intent that are racist.
Re: Makes my blood boil - Aegis Bearing Mel - 03-01-15
Ok Kiddies, I'm wading in here before this descends further into chaos.
It's been apparent from recent posts that Lew and Gareth are never going to make use of the new Marriage laws available in the UK, but if we can take a step back please gents, that would be grand.
Fair to say I don't think that Lew should have relayed the Jews chasing money prejudice as fact, nor do I think that Gareth should have added fuel to an already contentious issue by paraphrasing this into money grabbing bastards.
I, along with those who held the reins prior, tend to believe that a hands off and self moderating approach is the way to proceed as we are all (allegedly) grown adults.
I will however wade in when we start lowering the level of the board to that of a UKIP style soundbite.
I don't care which Invisible Superhero that Lives in Space you believe in, nor which level of melanin you have in your skin, you will always be welcome here as long as you adopt the same approach.
As soon as you start posting bigoted pish, you're on my shitlist.
So, I'll ask us all to have a guid think before we post things of that nature, I've not wielded T-Cat's Banning Stick ™ in anger for a while, I'd like to keep it that way.
Love 'n hugs,
Aegis
Re: Makes my blood boil - lew600fazer - 03-01-15
Accepted, lets get back to talking about a decent bike or failing that a decent whiskey.
Re: Makes my blood boil - locksmith - 03-01-15
Aegis you old spoilsport :lol
Re: Makes my blood boil - bigbluebear - 03-01-15
But who is the Katie Hopkins award going to
Re: Makes my blood boil - Exupnut - 03-01-15
It goes to Aegis fer being a borin haggis shagger
Re: Makes my blood boil - noggythenog - 03-01-15
(03-01-15, 12:50 PM)Exupnut link Wrote: It goes to Aegis fer being a borin haggis shagger
Ive been looking for a fresh hobby for 2015
Re: Makes my blood boil - VNA - 03-01-15
Doddsie, I please read my (modified) post reply 11
Quote:The FA were pressured by the Board of Deputies of British Jews.
Lew, I have no idea of whether they were or were not. I have little interest in football. Nor do I care much for The Board of Deputies of British Jews, I seldom agree with them, however if they did apply pressure over this incident then they were right to do so.
Dave Whelan has apologised for his remarks and we are told will accept the FA's verdict. End of story.
In response to Aegis's intervention, which I welcome, I have modified the first line of my post reply 11
Re: Makes my blood boil - Exupnut - 03-01-15
Advantage VNA