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Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - His Dudeness - 24-09-14
How old is the battery? Do you leave the bike parked for a few days in a row or do you use it daily? It's 95% chance its a weak battery and 0.0000016% chance it's a phantom condensation problem :lol A trickle charger would probably be a good investment.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 24-09-14
(24-09-14, 08:34 AM)Fazafou link Wrote: He's got his fingers in his ears going 'la la la it's not my battery it's not my battery......'
No, I'm just making sure that it *IS* the battery before I fork out £45-£50 buying a new one and then, having installed it, found out that there's *STILL* a problem and it wasn't the battery after all.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 24-09-14
(23-09-14, 09:38 PM)fireblake link Wrote: Hey Graham, if you're ever near Segensworth, Fareham you can pop into Barden batteries. They are near Makro. I get all my batteries from there. They'll check it out for you too.
That's not that far away, so thanks for the suggestion.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 24-09-14
(24-09-14, 11:19 AM)His Dudeness link Wrote: A trickle charger would probably be a good investment.
I agree, that's why I bought an Optimate III some years ago and keep the battery topped up with it :pokefun
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - fazersharp - 24-09-14
(24-09-14, 11:30 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=14796.msg167809#msg167809 date=1411553996]
A trickle charger would probably be a good investment.
I agree, that's why I bought an Optimate III some years ago and keep the battery topped up with it :pokefun
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Yep me too - only its a yam branded cteck one, 16 year old battery. I wonder what would happen if I left it off the charger for a week !
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Simon.Pieman - 24-09-14
(24-09-14, 11:30 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=His Dudeness link=topic=14796.msg167809#msg167809 date=1411553996]
A trickle charger would probably be a good investment.
I agree, that's why I bought an Optimate III some years ago and keep the battery topped up with it :pokefun
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Well that is probably the big problem. If you use an Optimate regularly how is it possible to tell if the battery is failing? (other than meter tests)
As a rule, I use an Optimate only if the bike has stood still for 2 weeks and largely discharged itself (or got very low). If the battery is a good'un it easily lasts a week between starts, it doesn't need an Optimate to hold charge for that long. Bad batteries do.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - esetest - 24-09-14
As I don't use the bike much in the winter , I take it off the bike early November and put it back on in early march , I bring it indoors and put it out the way somewhere , then once a month when I,m going to take it out I put the battery on charge for an hour , the cold will kill a weak battery .
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 25-09-14
(24-09-14, 01:40 PM)Simon.Pieman link Wrote: Well that is probably the big problem. If you use an Optimate regularly how is it possible to tell if the battery is failing? (other than meter tests)
The Optimate does have a built in tester where it switches between charging and then checking the charge stays in there, but I don't know what the tolerance on it is. I've not had it register the battery as "weak", but obviously that's not proof.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 25-09-14
(24-09-14, 05:01 PM)esetest link Wrote: As I don't use the bike much in the winter
However I do, hence why I don't want to be spending time removing/ replacing the battery every time I want to go out.
And, of course, temperatures at the moment aren't at "battery killing" levels.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - His Dudeness - 25-09-14
It's not difficult get a multimeter and test the battery or get a battery and try it. You're just wasting people's time debating the most basic things
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - locksmith - 25-09-14
Once, I had a knackered battery that was "OK" on the optimate, and that was less than 2 years old.
I stopped having alarms fitted and don't bother with a charger now.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - YamFazFan - 25-09-14
(25-09-14, 09:21 AM)locksmith link Wrote: Once, I had a knackered battery that was "OK" on the optimate, and that was less than 2 years old.
I stopped having alarms fitted and don't bother with a charger now.
My last battery was less than 2 years old and wouldn't hold charge on the bike enough to even operate the fuel pump after a week without use,but it came up "OK" on the optimate (after recharging).Charging it up and leaving it off the bike it was still reading over 12v after 4 days,by which time i'm thinking I've got a discharge problem on the bike,but on the 5th day the voltage had suddenly dropped to 0.3v! and putting the multimeter back on took it into -volts.Fitted new battery & all is sorted
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Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Dead Eye - 25-09-14
Go home battery, you're drunk
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 28-09-14
(25-09-14, 12:55 AM)His Dudeness link Wrote: It's not difficult get a multimeter and test the battery
I have, as mentioned in the other thread.
Quote:or get a battery and try it.
Fine, you pay £50 for a new battery for me and if that turns out to have been the problem I'll pay you back.
If it isn't, I'll have it as a free gift.
Quote:You're just wasting people's time debating the most basic things
Nobody is forcing you to read this thread, but thank you for your helpful comments.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - darrsi - 28-09-14
I don't mean to put a spanner in the works, but battery chargers foc up as well.
I see it all the time at work as we have hundreds of them (no i can't get you one).
They look like they're charging, with all the lights showing up okay but they can be dud too, just like ropey phone chargers.
Everyone just presumes it's the battery but it's not always the case.
Just something else to consider that's all, i'll shut up now. :tape
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - midden - 29-09-14
Have you tried disconnecting the battery completely then leaving it for a couple of days to see if it holds it's charge?
(25-09-14, 12:42 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=esetest link=topic=14796.msg167841#msg167841 date=1411574462]
As I don't use the bike much in the winter
However I do, hence why I don't want to be spending time removing/ replacing the battery every time I want to go out.
And, of course, temperatures at the moment aren't at "battery killing" levels.
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Just bump start it then, like I have the couple of times it's happened to me. Mine has even flattened after a long ride just by leaving ignition on for a few minutes. I know the battery is on its way out but so far like you've mentioned it works fine after a bump start. So I put up with it but when it becomes a problem as it clearly has for you I'll just take the plunge and buy a new battery.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Grahamm - 01-10-14
Thanks to everyone for the advice and my apologies for the delay in replying, but my mother was taken into hospital a few days ago so I've had a few other things on my mind.
I did actually bite the bullet and buy a new battery, unfortunately I'm having *another* problem, this time with a stuck bolt, but I'll detail in a different thread as I think this one has run its course.
Re: Condensation Problems (Maybe) - Doddsie - 01-10-14
No need for apologies, some things are more important than others.