Oil recommendation? - Printable Version

Oil recommendation? - Printable Version

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Re: Oil recommendation? - fazersharp - 27-03-15

So at 3000 miles - not klm and every two years im not far off am I

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 27-03-15

Yup. My bad - didn't get much sleep today. Somehow I understood you change in 2-3k mile interval. So I guessed if that's annual mileage than OK, but no need to change so often if riding 4-5 k miles per year. Your policy is quite reasonable.

Re: Oil recommendation? - fazersharp - 28-03-15

Just to clear up, my average is 1000 to 1500 miles per year and I have been changing oil and filter every two years.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Freza - 28-03-15

Time interval isn't important, mileage is?

Re: Oil recommendation? - sinto607276 - 28-03-15

(27-03-15, 02:48 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: The thing is I dont do football, golf ------ anything, my bike is all I have in that respect, I dont spend any money on the bike other than fuel, do all the work myself, so £15 a year isnt much, I would say that £130 on a fuel cap is money to burn. swapping an exhaust for a different sound is money to burn, swapping leavers for stubby ones is money to burn having more than one bike is money to burn, smoking is money to burn. So there you go, blah blah blah.
Who wants to buy my old oil - only done 3000 miles. From a smoke free pet free home will send well packed in a jiffy bag.

Absolutely fantastic post :-D :-D :-D

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 28-03-15

(28-03-15, 12:04 PM)Freza link Wrote: Time interval isn't important, mileage is?

Both are. Once per year, or per mileage - whichever comes first. However, if mileage is really low, less than 1/3 of the recommended service interval, you could go with a bit longer interval. Perhaps even two years.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Freza - 28-03-15

Ok, I thought oil wouldn't deteriorate over time...

Re: Oil recommendation? - Earache - 29-03-15

I use Castrol Power1 10w-40 semi-synthetic changer every 10.000km (6000miles) or so with a new filter.
I do mostly highway/mountain road riding/commuting to work etc. so the engine always warms up sufficiently.
I ride it all year around and tend to change the oil 2 times a year, until now no probs with the engine or clutch. bike is currently on 30.000miles
Changing the oil every 2-3000 miles in my opinion is a complete waste of money unless its used for racing and is constantly revved..
The oil i'm using has an API rating of SJ which is way above the recommendation of the manufacturer so i would expect it to be still a good lubricant even after 6000miles..

Re: Oil recommendation? - fazersharp - 29-03-15

Quote:Changing the oil every 2-3000 miles in my opinion is a complete waste of money

Thats why I sort of mitigate things by only changing every two years if I changed every 6000 miles for me it would almost be once every 5 years

Re: Oil recommendation? - unfazed - 29-03-15

(26-03-15, 08:05 PM)Freza link Wrote: I'm a bit embarrassed to say that today I changed my Fazer's oil for the first time.
Until now, only the mechanics did that for me, but since there's not much you can screw up, I decided to take further responsibility of changing oil.

It all went OK, except that removing of oil filter was a pain in the arse, because there wasn't much space to move the wrench.

About 2.7L went inside when settled.

And for good people on this forum a little bonus from me...
Yesterday when I went to buy the oil filter, they just received a brand new 2015 R1.
They allowed me to sit on it, fire it up and rev it.
It's definitely a technological and mechanical gem of a motorcycle, but I'm not really a fan of the sound (crossplane engine).
Also, it's not as comfortable as Fazer.
The riding position is a spine killer, especially for taller people, but I guess that's the compromise you agree with when purchasing bikes like this:

https://youtu.be/y89oOl3zUdk

Buy an oil filter socket to fit the filter you use

Re: Oil recommendation? - crickleymal - 30-03-15

According to the maintenance manual which I think is downloadable from here the interval is 6000km which I think is about 4000 miles. That works out at about 3 or 4 months usage for me during the spring and summer, a bit longer during the autumn and winter. Mind you most of it is trogging up and down the motorway to work so not exactly high stress mileage. Personally I always change the oil and filter together. A filter is only a fiver so why scrimp.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Slaninar - 30-03-15

(30-03-15, 04:12 PM)crickleymal link Wrote: According to the maintenance manual which I think is downloadable from here the interval is 6000km which I think is about 4000 miles. That works out at about 3 or 4 months usage for me during the spring and summer, a bit longer during the autumn and winter. Mind you most of it is trogging up and down the motorway to work so not exactly high stress mileage. Personally I always change the oil and filter together. A filter is only a fiver so why scrimp.

Use fully synthetic oil and change at 10,000 km (6000 mile) intervals, especially since you ride like you said you do. Just make sure you use a new oil filter each time.

Re: Oil recommendation? - crickleymal - 30-03-15

Ok thanks

Re: Oil recommendation? - Freza - 14-06-15

So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... :\
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Val - 15-06-15

(14-06-15, 10:36 PM)Freza link Wrote: So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... :\
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Re: Oil recommendation? - Woodzey80 - 15-06-15

I also have used motul & I agree it's shite !
Castrol power 1 gets my vote, wouldn't use anything else now.

Re: Oil recommendation? - darrsi - 15-06-15

(15-06-15, 02:28 AM)Val link Wrote: [quote author=Freza link=topic=13872.msg199560#msg199560 date=1434317782]
So, I've been riding with Motul oil that I changed 3 months ago and I must say I don't really like it... :\
The gearbox in particular became noticeably harsher, gear changes louder and harder.
Even my friend, who had Fazer 600 a few years ago said he once put Motul in and never again, due to same reasons.
Gonna switch to something else as soon as possible, probably Castrol.

Try Fuchs Silkolene Comp 4 10w-40 XP Synthetic Ester Based 4-Stroke Engine Oil For High Performance Motorcycles

Long story short - the best oil ever! See details here:

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Re: Oil recommendation? - Freza - 15-06-15

I used Castrol before, so I may try Fuchs now...

Re: Oil recommendation? - bigralphie - 15-06-15

Motul is shite , you need fully synth :rollin

I do love a oil thread :lol

Re: Oil recommendation? - unfazed - 15-06-15

These oil threads have been flogged to death. :rolleyes

For the record I use Silkolene Super 4 on all the fazers :thumbup

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