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Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - BBROWN1664 - 24-04-14 I got a call from my dad yesterday. He had just put £90 of petrol in his diesel A6. £224 for the AA to drain it all out then another £90 or so to fill the car with diesel. Muppet. Hopefully he hasn't fecced it up as he drove it a couple of miles blamining water in the diesel for bad running before he twigged. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - richfzs - 24-04-14 Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that you can get away with running a bit of diesel through a petrol engine, but not the other way round. Hope it's not true, Bob... Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - stevierst - 24-04-14 (24-04-14, 09:18 PM)richfzs link Wrote: Don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that you can get away with running a bit of diesel through a petrol engine, but not the other way round.Yep, that's true as far as I've learned. The diesel acts as a lubricant for the fuel pump, and petrol washes that away, and can knacker the pump. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - unfazed - 24-04-14 True, petrol engine will run with a bit of diesel. A few years ago when coming back from the UK having bought a Fazer 400 for my eldest son, we were diverted off the M4 around Bristol, we stopped at a small petrol station and filled the newly bought Fazer 400 and a 04 model CBR 600 from the same petrol pump. By the time we got to junction 23A there was some amount of smoke from both bikes, we stopped at Junction 23A and discovered we had diesel contamination, it had to be contamination as both bike were close to reserve when we had stopped in the Bristol and we filled from the same petrol pump. Since we had no idea how to find the station we filled at, we siphoned about half of the tanks into cans we bought in J23A filling station and filled both tanks with fresh petrol. Trusty Fazer 400 was bit slow starting, but there was no way we could start the CBR. We put the CBR on a recovery truck to Pembroke, pushed on to the ferry and had it collected in Rosslare by a friend in his van. The Fazer 400 ran with out issue home to Cork. ![]() Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - adeejaysdelight - 24-04-14 Nae luck mate. Chin up and all that ![]() Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - ChristoT - 24-04-14 Unlucky, mate! To the others - FOC OFF! :lol :lol BTW, the RAC will tow you home for free if it's within 10 miles, I think it is. When I did that to the Pug (Sharrup, ya piss takin foccers!), it was towed home - 14 miles, boo hiss, and I pumped it out myself. Much cheaper! Bad luck all the same! Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - Aegis Bearing Mel - 25-04-14 Fud! :rollin Sure Madders did the same with his Viffer, although with his riding he didn't notice. :pokefun Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - Dave48 - 25-04-14 Bad Luck1 one day they will fit different size fuel filler pipes to ALL cars/vans (24-04-14, 09:50 PM)unfazed link Wrote: True, petrol engine will run with a bit of diesel. A few years ago when coming back from the UK having bought a Fazer 400 for my eldest son, we were diverted off the M4 around Bristol, we stopped at a small petrol station and filled the newly bought Fazer 400 and a 04 model CBR 600 from the same petrol pump. By the time we got to junction 23A there was some amount of smoke from both bikes, we stopped at Junction 23A and discovered we had diesel contamination, it had to be contamination as both bike were close to reserve when we had stopped in the Bristol and we filled from the same petrol pump. Since we had no idea how to find the station we filled at, we siphoned about half of the tanks into cans we bought in J23A filling station and filled both tanks with fresh petrol.Once filled Honda CX 500 with petrol which proved to be contaminated with diesel-Ran like a bloody tractor til I stopped then NO WAy ould it restart. Ended up syphoning all fuel out 21/2gallons-wouldnt even start with fresh petrol in tank. Recovered home & ended up stripping carbs/cleaning. Bike eventually ran better than before but garage(that I used regularly for both filling works van-diesel & my bikes-petrol denied all responsibility(of course) & suggested id filled up with wrong fuel! Told them I knew the difference between GREEN hose & BLACK one! Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - hightower - 25-04-14 To hijack the thread a bit, I have about £15 worth of petrol I moved in to an old tank for temp storage while I worked on the Fazer. Now I want that £15 back in the Fazer tank but not sure on the condition of the petrol (it should be fine, only been a few weeks but not sure if the inside of the older tank was rusty etc). Should I just tip it all back in, or bin it, or run it through some sort of strainer or what? Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - Fazerider - 25-04-14 (25-04-14, 10:57 AM)hightower link Wrote: To hijack the thread a bit, I have about £15 worth of petrol I moved in to an old tank for temp storage while I worked on the Fazer. Now I want that £15 back in the Fazer tank but not sure on the condition of the petrol (it should be fine, only been a few weeks but not sure if the inside of the older tank was rusty etc).Should be fine, run it through a paper coffee filter if you think there may be some debris in there and leave the last drop in the can to avoid transferring any water. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - bigralphie - 25-04-14 Set fire to it ,to burn off the impurities ![]() Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - Oldgit - 25-04-14 I thought that the filling stations were re-sizing the fuel pump nozzles so that wrong fuelling could not happen---or what about some bizarre colour scheme on the nozzles to make diesel fuel nozzles really stand out--simples. :pc Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - bigralphie - 25-04-14 they have but it only works one way round :'( Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - BBROWN1664 - 25-04-14 The re-sizing was done years ago to prevent leaded petrol being put into cars that had catalysts. A by product of that is that diesel pumps don't fit into petrol tanks these days either but petrol pumps still fit into diesel tanks. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - locksmith - 25-04-14 Done it once a few years ago, filled to the brim with unleaded! Back then there were no mobile units so we had to be towed a few miles to a garage that could do it. They just stuck a pipe in the tank and sucked it out, I was a bit worried but the engine never missed a beat. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - rustyrider - 26-04-14 As said, a bit of diesel in a petrol engine will just make it smoke a bit but won't do any harm. A bit of petrol in a diesel engine won't do any harm if it is an old tech diesel engine but if it is one of these modern high pressure common rail things then it's different. If the engine isn't started and all the fuel is drained out, it isn't a problem. If the engine is started and run then there may be no problems now but it will almost certainly lead to problems in the future. Daughters boyfriend had a TDCi Mondeo that decided it was going to not like starting. Took it into a local garage to be checked over and they recognised it. A month before he had bought it, it had been in as the previous owner had put petrol in it. It was going to need new injectors at £130 each and a new fuel pump at £800 to repair the damage. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - dazza - 26-04-14 Years ago back in the early 80's when diesel cars first came onto the market my old boss who had a brand new diesel Citroën used to mix a bit of petrol with it. Reckons it helped it start in the cold weather. Don't know whether there is any truth to it or not. He ran a boat yard and did the same to his old chugger boat too. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - unfazed - 26-04-14 (26-04-14, 11:40 AM)dazza link Wrote: Years ago back in the early 80's when diesel cars first came onto the market my old boss who had a brand new diesel Citroën used to mix a bit of petrol with it. Reckons it helped it start in the cold weather. Don't know whether there is any truth to it or not. He ran a boat yard and did the same to his old chugger boat too. Stopped the diesel waxing in frosty weather Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - robby boy - 26-04-14 (26-04-14, 11:24 AM)rustyrider link Wrote: As said, a bit of diesel in a petrol engine will just make it smoke a bit but won't do any harm. A bit of petrol in a diesel engine won't do any harm if it is an old tech diesel engine but if it is one of these modern high pressure common rail things then it's different. If the engine isn't started and all the fuel is drained out, it isn't a problem. If the engine is started and run then there may be no problems now but it will almost certainly lead to problems in the future. Daughters boyfriend had a TDCi Mondeo that decided it was going to not like starting. Took it into a local garage to be checked over and they recognised it. A month before he had bought it, it had been in as the previous owner had put petrol in it. It was going to need new injectors at £130 each and a new fuel pump at £800 to repair the damage. Re: What a Dick!!!!!! - BBROWN1664 - 26-04-14 Petrol doesn't combust through compression so it doesn't blow the injector to bits. What or does do is wash all the lubricating diesel away resulting in the injector failing. Add the bits of award from the knackered pump and you end up with needing new injectors and pump and possibly pipe work. |