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Re: Quick Shifters - cable tie - 26-03-14
(26-03-14, 04:54 PM)hightower link Wrote: [quote author=cable tie link=topic=12323.msg137351#msg137351 date=1395835143]Anyone whom states they replicate the same without the use of the clutch by using the throttle, is by no way replicating the same a shifter kills the ignition/fueling four times faster than a blink of the eye, you try and do that, impossible.
I wasn't trying to say I replicated it. But then again, I don't treat the road like Cadwell Park, so excuse me for failing to see the point of them. :lol
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There nowt to be excused about fella
there is no point to them until you've tried one, and you don't need to ride like ya pants on fire to benefit the use of one, different strokes for different folks
Re: Quick Shifters - Skippernick - 27-03-14
If you block shifted down with a quick shifter wouldn't that then require a slipper clutch?
Which my model doesn't have.
Re: Quick Shifters - hightower - 27-03-14
(26-03-14, 11:24 PM)cable tie link Wrote: There nowt to be excused about fella
It's probably just a case of jealousy. If I had one I'd probably be all "oh man, you gotta get one" but since I don't it's more "meh, waste of money for posh folks"
Re: Quick Shifters - Dead Eye - 27-03-14
(27-03-14, 09:05 AM)Skippernick link Wrote: If you block shifted down with a quick shifter wouldn't that then require a slipper clutch?
Which my model doesn't have.
Hmm... interesting one. I guess you are referring to how when people usually block downshift, they keep the clutch in. With a quick shifter I would imagine it would be letting the clutch out on every change
Besides this is usually discouraged (handbags at the ready) as any gear change can cause the gear teeth to misalign which is far more likely to happen the more gears you shift at once.
Re: Quick Shifters - Lawrence - 27-03-14
(27-03-14, 10:38 AM)Dead Eye link Wrote: [quote author=Skippernick link=topic=12323.msg137532#msg137532 date=1395907523]
If you block shifted down with a quick shifter wouldn't that then require a slipper clutch?
Which my model doesn't have.
Hmm... interesting one. I guess you are referring to how when people usually block downshift, they keep the clutch in. With a quick shifter I would imagine it would be letting the clutch out on every change
Besides this is usually discouraged (handbags at the ready) as any gear change can cause the gear teeth to misalign which is far more likely to happen the more gears you shift at once.
[/quote]A quickshifter won't do anything with the clutch. I'm not sure how they work on downshifts, but on upshifts it will kill the ignition for just long enough to take the load off the box and switch gears. Same as rolling off the throttle, just quicker.
Re: Quick Shifters - noggythenog - 27-03-14
This was very nearly me (eh Dek
)Foccin brilliant 8)
http://youtu.be/aRgu4BbTJLs
Re: Quick Shifters - Grahamm - 27-03-14
(27-03-14, 10:38 AM)Dead Eye link Wrote: Besides this is usually discouraged (handbags at the ready) as any gear change can cause the gear teeth to misalign which is far more likely to happen the more gears you shift at once.
Citation needed!
Re: Quick Shifters - Dead Eye - 27-03-14
(27-03-14, 11:27 AM)Lawrence link Wrote: [quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=12323.msg137544#msg137544 date=1395913124]
[quote author=Skippernick link=topic=12323.msg137532#msg137532 date=1395907523]
If you block shifted down with a quick shifter wouldn't that then require a slipper clutch?
Which my model doesn't have.
Hmm... interesting one. I guess you are referring to how when people usually block downshift, they keep the clutch in. With a quick shifter I would imagine it would be letting the clutch out on every change
[/quote]A quickshifter won't do anything with the clutch. I'm not sure how they work on downshifts, but on upshifts it will kill the ignition for just long enough to take the load off the box and switch gears. Same as rolling off the throttle, just quicker.
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A fundamental misunderstanding of the tech from me there
(27-03-14, 01:25 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=12323.msg137544#msg137544 date=1395913124]
Besides this is usually discouraged (handbags at the ready) as any gear change can cause the gear teeth to misalign which is far more likely to happen the more gears you shift at once.
Citation needed!
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Probably, but I can't find anything official
I've experienced the issue and I remember my instructor telling me about it when I first started learning (he was riding a Divi 600 I believe, but I don't believe he was referring to his bike specifically). I imagine it is more of an issue on old and worn parts where tolerances aren't as great as when they left the factory. My 600 has a hissy fit when block changing but that's not surprising considerings its god-awful state The theory behind it is due to the shifts never being perfect (granted this could be dealing with tolerances in the micrometre range) the teeth can be slightly out of alignment - on a single change this isn't something to be overly worried about as they will re-align themselves when engaged. By skipping through multiple gears, without releasing the clutch between, this misalignment is compounded to the point that the teeth won't mesh properly. As I said, this is the theory and may have been eradicated on newer bikes - its just not something I can find proper technical documentation on from a 10 min google search
In my head it makes sense, so I just avoid doing it
Re: Quick Shifters - Hamos - 27-03-14
Get one, they are ace. You can still use the clutch for around town, but any opportunity to pin the throttle, then you can just tap away. Lots of fun.
Re: Quick Shifters - Hamos - 27-03-14
(26-03-14, 01:05 PM)DekF link Wrote: Highly rated by me too. Been on my FZ1 7 years now & there's one on my soon to be s1000r. Full throttle upshifts are great. No needing to shutoff to unload the gearbox, just open that throttle & hang on.
The best mod for fun factor ever. Fact! 8)
Hey Dek hope you are doing well. I would love to hear your opinions on the S1000r when you get it, thinking of one of those for next year.
Re: Quick Shifters - DekF - 27-03-14
Hi bud, doing great thanks, hopefully you too.
Yeah, can't wait for 20th May when I collect it. I'm on my annual euro tour end of June so it will get well tested then. 8)
Those lucky enough to have theirs already are giving glowing reports. The only niggles so far are the levers & mirrors otherwise outstanding.