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Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 23-03-14
Thanks for that.
I think this will be the helmet I will get IF i am convinced that I need a new one.
I wanted it to be a "no brainer" - no pun intended. With a definate "oh my god 12 year old lid are you mad" kind of thing.
Recap
Cost me £120 12 years ago
Done 10k miles in it
Still fits good even when compared with trying on a new one
Only ever used water to clean
Never dropped
And I lke it
I need to spend £25 on new visors for it
What do I do
Re: Another Helmet thread - nick crisp - 23-03-14
Well, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the 3/5 year "rule" myself, if I knew that the helmet has been well looked after, not dropped or generally abused, and still fits nice and snug. But, 12 years? Hmmm, not sure, never managed to keep a helmet that long without crashing/dropping/abusing :lol
No one selling helmets is ever gonna tell you that a 12 year old helmet is ok. I think it just has to be your call :\
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 24-03-14
Thanks for the replies so far but ive just noticed that I only have 3 opinions so I am bumping to see if I can get some more wisdom and thoughts perhaps
Re: Another Helmet thread - esetest - 24-03-14
I read in a bike magazine ride or bike that it was 10years or 30k miles , I bought my Shoei raid 11 for £250 in 2007 and have done 22k miles so far, I'm planning to replace it in 2016 , I also bought a box flip front with a sun visor for £100 but only use it for shorter trips as it gets uncomfortable.
Re: Another Helmet thread - nick crisp - 24-03-14
(24-03-14, 07:09 PM)esetest link Wrote: I read in a bike magazine ride or bike that it was 10years or 30k miles , I bought my Shoei raid 11 for £250 in 2007 and have done 22k miles so far, I'm planning to replace it in 2016 , I also bought a box flip front with a sun visor for £100 but only use it for shorter trips as it gets uncomfortable.
Hey esetest, I hope you can take that Box off without opening the chin bar, cos sooner or later you're gonna have to!
Re: Another Helmet thread - esetest - 24-03-14
No I can't Nick :o , I wouldn't buy another one .
(24-03-14, 08:23 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: [quote author=esetest link=topic=12268.msg136896#msg136896 date=1395684568]
I read in a bike magazine ride or bike that it was 10years or 30k miles , I bought my Shoei raid 11 for £250 in 2007 and have done 22k miles so far, I'm planning to replace it in 2016 , I also bought a box flip front with a sun visor for £100 but only use it for shorter trips as it gets uncomfortable.
Hey esetest, I hope you can take that Box off without opening the chin bar, cos sooner or later you're gonna have to!
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Re: Another Helmet thread - kitcrazy - 24-03-14
I have a shark s900 with built in sun visor and it came with pinlock.think i paid about 160 for it about two years ago now i think?its a great fit and still tight and is very quiet for me.has all removable linings and cheek pads.and no air stream at all.a very good lid IMO or ive just been very lucky.
Re: Another Helmet thread - red98 - 24-03-14
Was looking at the shark s900 myself at the weekend.£199 now so parhaps they have updated it......impressed with it, think I might treat myself
Re: Another Helmet thread - kitcrazy - 24-03-14
i bought mine at the mcn show think they had them there again this year.
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 24-03-14
I tried on a shark - dont know which one and was not a good fit for me, I did notice though that the flip down sun shield was a proper tint worth having and yet the HJC one was hardly a tint at all
Re: Another Helmet thread - Andy FZS - 24-03-14
Quote from red98 Was looking at the shark s900 myself at the weekend.£199 now so parhaps they have updated it......impressed with it, think I might treat myself
<br/>Check out lids direct in the sale section £109.99
Re: Another Helmet thread - red98 - 25-03-14
(24-03-14, 10:34 PM)Andy FZS link Wrote: Quote from red98 Was looking at the shark s900 myself at the weekend.£199 now so parhaps they have updated it......impressed with it, think I might treat myself
Check out lids direct in the sale section £109.99
ooooooooo,thanks for the heads up andy :thumbup
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 25-03-14
Looked on lids and no cheeper than J&S for the IS-17.
a few things about vents, a HJC one has scroll wheels to adjust, I dond see any point - just open or closed is fine I dont think i will notice any difference between 50% 30%.
Also this IS - 17 im looking at how easy is the black clip on the front of the visor to undo with winter gloves on.
And the visor with pinlock ready seems to have a molded extra bit that is just going to obscure the outer edge and when riding with it slightly open im going to see and extra stupid line 1cm up from the bottom. I have no use for pinlock and would prefer a plain visor.
So im thinking if I could sell the supplied visor and buy a plain one.
Heres a picture
Re: Another Helmet thread - nick crisp - 25-03-14
Today I got myself an HJC RPHA10 Ancel, black/white/titanium. It was on show stock (so would have been destined for the BMF) because it had a cracked chin vent, and also is now obsolete, having been replaced by the RPHA10 Plus (but is a new, unused helmet, otherwise in perfect condition). The only differences are in the vents and the visor. So I replaced the chin vent (involves removing comfort liner and chin EPS, undo 3 screws and off comes the vent). I also replaced the old style visors with those from the 10 Plus, as they have an improved, single position pinlock insert and mount (clear and dark). I think the old RRP was about £330, paid £130 for this one
It's an even better fit than my IS-17, being the best crown fit I've ever had in any helmet, very snug but comfortable. The IS will be put away as a spare.
Actually, I didn't take note of the manufacturing date on the helmet while I had the liner out, but did examine the EPS which is all in perfect condition. Quite happy to use this helmet as a newly bought one.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/271365229073?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 25-03-14
Not sure about the top vents on that one, the wheel, are you really going to be able to adjust it while going 50mph, open or closed fine but the wheel thing
Re: Another Helmet thread - nick crisp - 25-03-14
I think they'll be easy enough to use once I get used to their positioning. But I doubt that I'll be fiddling with the position - probably use fully open or fully closed. I think having 2 instead of a single vent is perhaps not the best idea in the world, but the rest of the spec makes up for that at the price I'm paying (I hope).
But it's like anything I suppose - we take certain risks with anything we choose, I'm just hoping that it all balances out for this to be a good lid. I haven't actually read any reviews that pan it for anything either, and I've read several, including having feedback from the various BSB teams that Oxford Products support, and my colleague who has done BSB helmet technician for various Oxford sponsored teams, including TAG Triumph, Buildbase and more, and also the California Superbike School, and continues to do so for this season.
In any event, I felt I needed to try something in preparation for my Euro tour this year, as I didn't want the problem I've been having with the IS-17 to spoil things. At least I've got plenty of time to check the RPHA out before then, and I'll post up my thoughts and experience with it once it's had a little use.
P.S. This is typical of the reviews I have read - ok, so it's biking press, maybe not entirely to be trusted, but I've also spoken with folks that have them, and they do seem to like them.
http://www.twowheel.co.uk/news/hjc-rpha-10-helmet-range-review-awesome-looking-lightweight-comfortable-probably-the-best-helmet-aroundme-looking-lightweight-probably-the-best-out-there-at/
And another review:
http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/hjc-rpha-10-motorcycle-helmet-review/
I had a similar problem with the visor being a little stiff to lift from closed on the ratchet system when I first tried it at work. In this, I'm lucky about where I work, as I was able to choose replacement base plates and visors from a few that we had on show stock, and adjust to perfection. This has been a problem with some of the first generation RPHAs in the past - combined with lifting the visor by the central catch has caused cracking around this catch. Using base plates and visors from the RPHA10 Plus has resolved this I think. We'll see.
I have also found one review that says that the helmet didn't rate too highly in the SHARP tests; read that here:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/products/productsresults/helmets/2011/may/may1711-hjc-rpha-10-helmet/
But it does have minimum legal EC22 of course. My thoughts on this? Well, a little disappointing perhaps, but can't say I'm overly concerned either. I'll leave that to the individual to decide :\
Re: Another Helmet thread - gassitt - 26-03-14
It appears I have a European head as Arias/Shoeis just do not fit me
Used AGV X VENTs in their various guises for years and have never had any complaints.When they were discontinued moved to the Airtech which is now my commuting lid and for that its fine.It just wasn't as comfortable on long European trips as X vent and the demisting vents are crap ( not a prob on a 6 mile commute )
My long distance lid is a Shark S900. Its done 8 European trips now , its light and all day comfortable, no probs with misting and the drop down visor is actually dark enough to be usable ( have a mirror visor for the main one too ) , plus its the FOST model which glows in the dark , cools a fuck in tunnels and lightrs up the tent a restful blue during the night
The one thing some folk may not like is the ratchet fastening , I have no issues with it but it probably isn't to everyones taste
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 26-03-14
That shark S900 keeps getting a mention, im sure I tried one on and wasnt as good fit as the IS -17 om my small stupid head, I may have to re- visit it.
That ratchet visor, how does it work. Mine now i can ride with it at any position which is perfect with a strip of black tape on the bottom edge so I can psoition it perfectly to block low sun. And then in the summer I can ride with it 2 inch open and get in lots of air and still keep the bugs out.
As i understand it those ratchet ones only have 3 positions, shut - 1cm open and fully open and anything else will just be pushed shut,
Also those catches look inpossible to operate in winter gloves
Re: Another Helmet thread - nick crisp - 26-03-14
The RPHA has 4 ratchet positions + fully closed, all with a very positive feel, so I think that will be plenty. 1st position is, oh, about 1/2 inch or perhaps a little more. If you pull it all the way closed without actually locking it on the catch, it just leaves a very narrow gap each side of the catch, which might also be useful. Lock the catch and it should seal fully.
Gonna go for a spin later, so I'll post my first impressions of use after. (Will be wearing thick winter gloves).
Actually, the visor catch is the same as the IS-17 one.
Re: Another Helmet thread - fazersharp - 26-03-14
So when in each of those 4 positions can you ride without the wind blowing shut, im thinking I only do this up to about 50 mabe - not all the time but somtimes i like it, its a bit eairer for me as I wear glasses also.