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Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 11-01-14
From the CPS website:
Speed limit: 20 mph ACPO charging threshold: 24 mph Summons: 35 mph
Speed limit: 30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mph
Speed limit: 40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mph
Speed limit: 50 mph ACPO charging threshold: 57 mph Summons: 76 mph
Speed limit: 60 mph ACPO charging threshold: 68 mph Summons: 86 mph
Speed limit: 70 mph ACPO charging threshold: 79 mph Summons: 96 mph
The officers who pulled me over chose to regard the number in the "Summons" column as still being in the fixed penalty zone.
I think the slightest argument or a hint of stroppiness from me would have resulted in a different interpretation... possibly they had more than one reading available from the Truvelo. I'm in no doubt they were very decent guys who were being as lenient as they could.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - stevierst - 11-01-14
Don't fail the "attitude test". Be polite, you have nothing to lose, but everything to gain! (like a clean licence) ;D;D;D
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - JZS 600 - 11-01-14
I binned my bike on the way to work a couple of years ago, that soon put the brakes on a bit.
Now commuting means riding sensibly and not taking the piss as 10 mins late to work it fuck all when you consider what can happen.
I get my jollies at the weekend away from traffic and other hazards! (safely, of course
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Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - DryRob - 11-01-14
Try some advanced rider training, religious observation of the speed limit might help with your speed awareness
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - stevierst - 11-01-14
(11-01-14, 10:52 AM)DryRob link Wrote: Try some advanced rider training, religious observation of the speed limit might help with your speed awarenessIt saves you quite a bit on fuel too!
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - St.eve - 11-01-14
No Helmet Tut Tut
(09-01-14, 04:01 PM)hightower link Wrote: Just start commuting like this. If you break the speed limit then I would be surprised! :lol
Crazy stunt: Chinese man rides scooter standing, facing backwards, takes phone call
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - midden - 11-01-14
(11-01-14, 10:57 AM)stevierst link Wrote: [quote author=DryRob link=topic=11268.msg120774#msg120774 date=1389433965]It saves you quite a bit on fuel too!
Try some advanced rider training, religious observation of the speed limit might help with your speed awareness
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Speed limits can be frustratingly slow though. Especially the 50mph on 3 lane roads
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - DryRob - 12-01-14
(11-01-14, 08:47 PM)midden link Wrote: [quote author=stevierst link=topic=11268.msg120775#msg120775 date=1389434269]It saves you quite a bit on fuel too!
[quote author=DryRob link=topic=11268.msg120774#msg120774 date=1389433965]
Try some advanced rider training, religious observation of the speed limit might help with your speed awareness
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Speed limits can be frustratingly slow though. Especially the 50mph on 3 lane roads
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Yeah they usually are frustrating but if that's the limit then it's your decision if you want to stick to it. If you're worried about points your licence then it's probably best to get into a habit of keeping an eye on your speed. Sticking to the limit for a while helps you do this as you are continually checking your speed.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - DryRob - 12-01-14
You could sort yourself more than one route to work on different roads so you don't slip into auto pilot and drift over the limit
Instead of buying a full satnav unit, you might be able to find a smartphone app that gives you alerts
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - pitternator - 13-01-14
surely this incident will now make you check both your speed and the speed limit. more than before ?
We shouldnt need an audible warning . Look at it another way , would you get an audible warning about a ped about to walk in front of you , a car about to pull out.
Not being parsimonious, but to survive and ride we have to be ultra aware of what we are doing on a bike all the time.
Its a shock to get a ticket , and when its happened to me, initially you think " why me".... but later on you accept that you just have to be whiter than white to keep a clean licence.I dont think you can just casually speed these days with impunity, my own thought is you have to know and pick yer roads to ride as such.
I feel for folks commuting cos there must be many similar roads where it is all too easy to get caught.
I dont agree that riding a faster bike will help you slow down !...you need a bike which needs a bit more effort to make speed, so you have to make some conscious effort in getting there.
My fazer thou is a bugger for easily drifting up in speed in any gear at almost any road speeds. Constant monitoring and speed awareness is required. :\
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - msmudge - 13-01-14
(10-01-14, 12:13 AM)Fazerider link Wrote: Are there any satnavs that actually know the speed limits of the roads?
There are plenty that include or can add speed camera warnings, but they only know the speed limit at that particular location... what I'd like is a warning that I'm getting close to the "summons" speed wherever I am, not just at certain spots.
CoPilot on iPhone will do this. But of course you have the problem of mounting it. But not impossible.
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 13-01-14
This morning's commute was done at speeds that wouldn't have raised a copper's eyebrow... and god, it was dull. Those swoopy bits of flyover were much more enjoyable when tackled 20 mph faster. :lol
Still, it has to become a habit, the alternative routes are either horrible (A30) or add too many miles (M3/M25/ M4 or A40).
Oddly, I've always managed to avoid speeding past the Gatso by the Shell garage... even when huge chunks of the journey have been done on "autopilot" and I've not been conscious of having slowed for the camera, I've done it automatically. So it must be possible to reprogram my brain that the "fast" bit of A316 is a no-fun zone.
It'd be nice to have an audible reminder as a back-up though.
Thanks DryRob/msmudge: I'd forgotten there was a copy of CoPilot on my iPhone3, I never checked out its capabilities as it doesn't work well enough to be useful (possibly a duff connection to the internal antenna). It did get a location for my back garden once, but it took half an hour and has never known where it is since. Maybe a new phone is the best solution. Mounting shouldn't be a problem as I don't need to be able to see it, it can stay in my pocket (provided it can get a signal there).
pitternator: I agree that a faster bike is no solution! Whether it's one that has me scared of unintended powerslides and wheelies or something that feels as relaxed and comfortable at 140 as the FZS600 does at 80... it's going to lose my licence for me (or worse).
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - noggythenog - 13-01-14
There's only one way outta this Fazerider.
You're gonna have to swap your Fazer for CristoT's Pug 106 :eek
You'll struggle to hit the speed limit
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - Fazerider - 13-01-14
Definitely not. :rollin
I already have a slow car. Also, I've seen the pictures of what ChristoT does to bikes... wouldn't sentence my beloved Fazer to that fate. :lol
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - RobG UK - 13-01-14
You were speeding on the way TO work. Are you mad or do you work in a strip club?
As for speeding in general. What is there in town worth speeding for?, if you can do over a ton then you need to find a real road! and if its popular with motorcyclists its also popular with the police
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - ChristoT - 13-01-14
(13-01-14, 05:34 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: There's only one way outta this Fazerider.
You're gonna have to swap your Fazer for CristoT's Pug 106 :eek
You'll struggle to hit the speed limit
Foc off! It is actually nice to drive! No :faz, but it will happily do speed limit +.
(13-01-14, 06:30 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: Definitely not. :rollin
I already have a slow car. Also, I've seen the pictures of what ChristoT does to bikes... wouldn't sentence my beloved Fazer to that fate. :lol
Foc off ya bastard!
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - redthunder - 13-01-14
My advice for what its worth would be to leave home 5-10 minutes earlier. I have a 15 minute commute but generally leave about 40 minutes before my shift starts, allows for anything unexpected on the way and i'm never rushing or chasing the clock. If I need petrol or want to check the tyre pressure I have time to do it and still have time to get changed and get a cuppa in at work before the shift starts.
If there is one thing I have learned in the 18 months i've sat on a bike it is to never be in a hurry. And it's worked well for me so far :lol
Re: No chance of talking my way out of this one. - maddog04 - 14-01-14
DO NOT REMOVE YOUR EARPLUGS...............your hearing is far too important to foc up
"I think that once you have reached the point that you can outride the bike".........unless your Rossi then you'll never outride a 600 as the bike will do anything you ask of it.