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Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Fuzzy - 16-09-13

Simonm - there are so many things wrong in your statement that I don't know where to start  :o








Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - darrsi - 16-09-13

Yamaha are Japanese!!!  :rolleyes

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

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(16-09-13, 01:11 PM)Fuzzy link Wrote: Simonm - there are so many things wrong in your statement that I don't know where to start  :o

I can tell you it doesn't answer your original question  :lol

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 01:27 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Yamaha are Japanese!!!  :rolleyes
Yes,  but in order to import their bikes in to the UK they go go through vehicle testing. And are sold through a uk distributor and are subject to UK law.  Buying a pair of levers from China or Japan direct would,  I think,  make you responsible if a question of liability arose.  All of this is just my opinion.

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

As an aside I've just  been told by a friend who works in the east that Japanese parts are generally better than Chinese parts.

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Fuzzy - 16-09-13

Having lived in Japan for several years and having taken Japanese Studies at university, Japan is one of the few things I know about pretty well. I also know a thing or two about the Japanese motorcycle and motorcycle accessories industry.

Are you seriously suggesting that buying Japanese or Chinese made products is unethical on the basis that you would be supporting communism and that during manufacture, child labour and environmentally detrimental means were employed?

Everybody is entitled to an opinion but it helps if some or any part of it is based on a fact. If you don't know what you're talking about, especially on a public forum and when it concerns culture and race, perhaps it is best if you keep those opinions to yourself.

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - CRH - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 02:08 PM)Fuzzy link Wrote: Having lived in Japan for several years and having taken Japanese Studies at university, Japan is one of the few things I know about pretty well. I also know a thing or two about the Japanese motorcycle and motorcycle accessories industry.

Are you seriously suggesting that buying Japanese or Chinese made products is unethical on the basis that you would be supporting communism and that during manufacture, child labour and environmentally detrimental means were employed?

Everybody is entitled to an opinion but it helps if some or any part of it is based on a fact. If you don't know what you're talking about, especially on a public forum and when it concerns culture and race, perhaps it is best if you keep those opinions to yourself.
......BANZI... 8)

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

I did retract the reference to Japan being communist and/or child labour through edit way before you posted but I apologise for my misconceptions. Regarding those two facts.

In my opinion what I said about China still stands and if it isn't based on fact then it's still my opinion. I've spent a great deal of time on forums reading comments from people that don't know what they're talking about and if that applies to me in this occasion then C'est la vie.  If you're going to contradict it also helps to provide some useful links to reinforce your specific points as I'll be happy to read them and change my point of view.

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - red98 - 16-09-13

not sure what i believe the most.........japanese parts better than chinese...or...simon has a friend !!!

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 02:18 PM)red98 link Wrote: not sure what i believe the most.........japanese parts better than chinese...or...simon has a friend !!!
Ignorance is bliss huh.  :rollin

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Fuzzy - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 02:16 PM)simonm link Wrote: I did retract the reference to Japan being communist and/or child labour through edit way before you posted but I apologise for my misconceptions. Regarding those two facts.

In my opinion what I said about China still stands and if it isn't based on fact then it's still my opinion. I've spent a great deal of time on forums reading comments from people that don't know what they're talking about and if that applies to me in this occasion then C'est la vie.  If you're going to contradict it also helps to provide some useful links to reinforce your specific points as I'll be happy to read them and change my point of view.

I'll avoid getting into a discussion about China or Japan, but if you have an interest, I think reading the Wiki pages for both of those countries could be a good start.

In regards to aftermarket Japanese made m/c parts and accessories, I would be inclined to disagree with you and say that like many things made in Japan, due to the high cost of labour and perceived high quality (by some at least!), they are more likely to sit towards the middle and higher end of the market and that the price usually reflects this by being high. Examples of such products that fit this description are made by brands like Yoshimura, Kushitani, Arai and Shoei.

Having said all of that, ultimately, the quality of a product can not be determined simply by the country it was made in.

*Edit: Forgot to add that I have a pair of these levers, very happy :thumbup

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - noggythenog - 16-09-13

Just tested out my chinese levers for the first time today & i can confirm that they are the cats tits! 8)

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 02:41 PM)Fuzzy link Wrote: Having said all of that, ultimately, the quality of a product can not be determined simply by the country it was made in.
I would say that the trade descriptions act, ISO standards, trading standards and legal recourse in the UK (perhaps even europe) would make the selling of an item which was unfit for purpose highly unlikely, at least for long.

I do agree however that YMMV for anything that you buy from any country.

Again, just personal opinion.


Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Dead Eye - 16-09-13

Wow... so simonm has gone one step further...

Starts off by annoying some foccers and is now stepping up to an international audience... better not say anything bad about cagers or they'll be out to run you over more so than usual!  :eek

As an aside, Japan make some of the best crafted and engineered parts in world (in my opinion) and have nothing to do with communism (that's just being racist...) Their engineering is almost as good as that of the Germans. As for standards; isn't the Nissan GTR built in Japan in hermetically sealed labs?

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - simonm - 16-09-13

(16-09-13, 08:09 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: Wow... so simonm has gone one step further...

Starts off by annoying some foccers and is now stepping up to an international audience... better not say anything bad about cagers or they'll be out to run you over more so than usual!  :eek

As an aside, Japan make some of the best crafted and engineered parts in world (in my opinion) and have nothing to do with communism (that's just being racist...) Their engineering is almost as good as that of the Germans. As for standards; isn't the Nissan GTR built in Japan in hermetically sealed labs?

I did retract and apologise about Japan over 6 hours ago...  If you're just reading this thread now I don't see anything in my comments about Japan that don't apply anywhere, but if there is I meant just China.

Further more just because a Nissan gtr is a beautiful,  kick ass stunning beast of a machine it doesn't mean that a set of brake levers from another nameless Japanese manufacturer is top notch.

I'm not sure being communist is racism either as many different races could or could not be communist...

Wait a min.  I'm being drawn in.  Time to escape the thread,  jettison escape pod.

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Exupnut - 16-09-13

Simon.....STFU :-)

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Dead Eye - 16-09-13

Aww you caught on too quick Tongue

And besides, the same can be said as far as UK manufacturing goes.

In the grand scheme of things, you can't compare China to Japan in this sense

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - noggythenog - 16-09-13

Ive already sold 5 sets of my Hayabusa levers whilst yous guys tittle tattle.....straight off my old Grifter, Wolf, Muddy fox, GT & Barbie bikes!!!! :b

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - Exupnut - 16-09-13

Your levers r similar to mine but mine extend in/out whereas your r fixed length.  Na Na ....Na..Na Na...

Re: Chinese long levers for 99 fzs600 - noggythenog - 17-09-13

(16-09-13, 09:33 PM)Exupnut link Wrote: Your levers r similar to mine but mine extend in/out whereas your r fixed length.  Na Na ....Na..Na Na...
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Aha but you are mistaken sir as mine also have this function, i take it its for if you drop the bike instead of snapping off?


I dont have the bit of plastic behind the finger piece though, no cheap plastic for me Smile