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Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 27-05-13
(27-05-13, 02:31 PM)red98 link Wrote: oh no not the thames :eek .......got to be blockage in the carb,did you remove the jets to clean ? also check the float height
it wont float in the thames!!!!!! yes removed the jets found no crud but still cleaned them all didnt check float height as how can that ever get changed and never found that to be a problem in 37 years of carrer waiting for high tide now
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 27-05-13
(27-05-13, 08:03 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: This could be completely retarded but; could the butterfly be sticking closed?
i thought that but no they all open in sync
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - Dead Eye - 27-05-13
Yeah, I believe they do, but for some reason you aren't getting fuel in to no 4 cylinder. If the jets have been cleaned and the floats are fine (agree that its unlikely to be the float height) then that leaves the butterfly or a blockage in the carb rubbers (either side potentially)
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - red98 - 28-05-13
sticking float,blocked/stuck float valve ?
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - ade the blade - 28-05-13
(28-05-13, 08:04 AM)red98 link Wrote: sticking float,blocked/stuck float valve ?
as above........to recap then, not leccy fault as carbs 3 and 4 have differing amounts of misfire ( both these plugs are `fired `by separate coils ) so chances of both faulty at same time are pretty slim. shit running when `fueled ` in normal manner but revs lovely when fuel is added bypassing carb ( vacuum nipple :rolleyes )= internal carb issue.......and so we return to Red`s suggestion !! good luck. said it before, sit down with a cuppa ( and possibly a ciggy ) and just think it through. don`t start ripping things apart willy nilly. you know it`s a `fuelling` issue so keep solely in that area
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 28-05-13
will rip carbs off again when i get a chance and give em another good clean then report back cheers so far boys for all your help very much appreciated
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - Ebme Geek - 29-05-13
If you prime up the carbs, ign on wait for fuel pump to stop clicking just before you remove them and then keep them verticle, remove the bowl of dodgy no4 and a good one and compare the fuel levels between them. If you loose any fuel out of them getting them out just top them up again out of the frame.
This is better than just a "float level" check, as that don't prove the needle valve is not bloked or other no fuel flow problem / blockage, stuck float as mentioned possible
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - Fazerider - 29-05-13
A quicker and less messy method of checking the fuel levels in the carbs is to use a length of pvc tubing on the drain spigot as described in the manual. By draining the bowl first (may need to turn off the fuel tap under the tank briefly) you can compare the filling rates for a good carb and carbs 3 and 4. That way you can find out if the problem is in the fuel supply side without even taking the carbs off.
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - red98 - 29-05-13
(29-05-13, 05:42 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: A quicker and less messy method of checking the fuel levels in the carbs is to use a length of pvc tubing on the drain spigot as described in the manual. By draining the bowl first (may need to turn off the fuel tap under the tank briefly) you can compare the filling rates for a good carb and carbs 3 and 4. That way you can find out if the problem is in the fuel supply side without even taking the carbs off.
:agree yep...thats the way i do it.......i would check that first but its more likley to be the float valve
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Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 29-05-13
at last shes sorted it,s in the thames only joking before u go looking firstly sincere thanks to all for your inputs, helped imencly many many thanks took the carbs off and gave the another good strip down and blew the fook out of em and that cured it shes as good as new cheers boys many thanks.
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - red98 - 30-05-13
nice one matey.....did you see what was causing the blockage or was it just a general clean and blast with the airline ?.......glad its sorted
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 30-05-13
(30-05-13, 06:56 AM)red98 link Wrote: nice one matey.....did you see what was causing the blockage or was it just a general clean and blast with the airline ?.......glad its sorted
hi m8 when i striped carbs first time they were still like new and found no s-it in them did not use a compresor first time as i dont like blowing 100+ psi,s around esspecally when they still looked like new as usually with my luck something important usually gets blown accross the other side of the workshop and losted many thanks for your help cheers kind regards gaz
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - red98 - 31-05-13
ha ha....yeh, know what you mean about losing things with an air line,done that a few times,you mention the thames a few times are you at the london end ? if yes your more than welcome to join in with our "london foccers monthly ride-outs "
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - bucksfiz - 01-06-13
yes near the 02 whens the next ride out and where
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - Dead Eye - 02-06-13
The next ride out, is today
Leaving from the Ace Cafe at around 8.30am
Re: fazer 600 2001 misfire - Exupnut - 02-06-13
Wow! Ur up. Seeya 7:45