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Re: 1 centimetre - reillypadraig - 15-04-13
(15-04-13, 11:15 AM)Dead Eye link Wrote: I'm fairly certain that the bike will run even with the fuel gauge disconnected. Me and a few others I've seen have turned the tank around to rest on the seat when doing maintenance to provide fuel but there is no way that the fuel gauge cable will stretch that far
Now that you mention it that's right, my bad
Re: 1 centimetre - Stedman8 - 15-04-13
Check the earth on the coils see if its loose - other than that I'm out of ideas ,let us know what the culprit was ,cheers Steve
Re: 1 centimetre - Ebme Geek - 16-04-13
(15-04-13, 09:08 AM)carrier link Wrote: Red98: I've checked the plugs so many times and can't see them spark on the fazer, on the monster they spark. So I'll check the bundle for a short... I'm not convinced it's the sparkplugs, but then it's just a feeling... woman's intuition.... I'm a dude... I have no good intuition.
Fazerider: I will try that the moment I get a chance, thanks for the idea! It's so simple and yet...
bozboz: My intuition also says fuel pump... but it's usually wrong
Is this continuation of "always hard to start" ? - might not have been the battery afterall, but disturbance from what you did then gave a temp fix.
If you can't see a spark, you probably have not got one which means no ignition (make sure you are grounding the body of the spark plug on the top fin (not on cam cover, its rubber mounted & insulated)).
Totaly agree with Fazerider : another confidence checker, if you leave the bike turned off for more than a few minutes and then turn it back on you should get a couple of slow ticks from the fuel pump and then it stops, it is just builing up the pressure that has leaked back, and that shows there is fuel there. That and the fact that when it runs, its ok.
Forget fuel, or at least until you have sparks. Get tank proped so it wont slip, get hands in, as others mentioned general wires, coil wiring and grounds, if you get sparks try wiggling what you have found the other way, if you can turn the sparks on and off, you are probanly on it or very close. Also check the ground wire to the thermostat mount bolt is tight.
Re: 1 centimetre - domtrails - 16-04-13
Have you checked the fuel tap.... :rollin
Re: 1 centimetre - carrier - 16-04-13
(16-04-13, 05:10 PM)Ebme Geek link Wrote: [quote author=carrier link=topic=7270.msg69604#msg69604 date=1366013317]
Red98: I've checked the plugs so many times and can't see them spark on the fazer, on the monster they spark. So I'll check the bundle for a short... I'm not convinced it's the sparkplugs, but then it's just a feeling... woman's intuition.... I'm a dude... I have no good intuition.
Fazerider: I will try that the moment I get a chance, thanks for the idea! It's so simple and yet...
bozboz: My intuition also says fuel pump... but it's usually wrong
Is this continuation of "always hard to start" ? - might not have been the battery afterall, but disturbance from what you did then gave a temp fix.
If you can't see a spark, you probably have not got one which means no ignition (make sure you are grounding the body of the spark plug on the top fin (not on cam cover, its rubber mounted & insulated)).
Totaly agree with Fazerider : another confidence checker, if you leave the bike turned off for more than a few minutes and then turn it back on you should get a couple of slow ticks from the fuel pump and then it stops, it is just builing up the pressure that has leaked back, and that shows there is fuel there. That and the fact that when it runs, its ok.
Forget fuel, or at least until you have sparks. Get tank proped so it wont slip, get hands in, as others mentioned general wires, coil wiring and grounds, if you get sparks try wiggling what you have found the other way, if you can turn the sparks on and off, you are probanly on it or very close. Also check the ground wire to the thermostat mount bolt is tight.
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No I dont think its a continuation because now its "easy to start" most of the time... I just have a gremlin somewhere.
Tried pressing down on the wires but now the fault is so intermittent it always started while I was testing. I cut the loom, noticed a lot of tape
, not sure if its original or an ex owner messed around. Under the tape looks very OEM.
The red live wire connects to a red/green wire, but they seems normal. The ht coils use the same wire in parallel as a positive but different wires as negative which go to the cdi.... other then that everything is normal looking, but still find it hard to start every other time I turn the key...
Also, brand new thing, the rev limiter doesn't work anymore, instead of it going to 12 000 and then it flickering between 11 and 12 it just kind of cuts out... I still have power , not sure what's happening there, any clues?
Re: 1 centimetre - carrier - 17-04-13
double post
Re: 1 centimetre - carrier - 17-04-13
(16-04-13, 08:40 PM)domtrails link Wrote: Have you checked the fuel tap.... :rollin
yes... yes I haveThis morning for example, I turned the key, wouldn't start, turned it off and turned it back on, turned the key, started on the button.