Ding dong the witch is dead - Printable Version

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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - mtread - 08-04-13

-2 She stole my milk while I was at school, and it all went downhill from there

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - richfzs - 08-04-13

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King Jr..

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - dBfazer600 - 08-04-13

Its a blessing that she has died as I would have preferred her to shit herself and play with her own crap with the full knowledge that she would have drifted in and out out of comprehension that we know to be dementia. That is hate for you, not the forgiving individual who is willing to forgive and forget. But that is what I expect from individuals who are self important and could not give a shit about others who tarnish others with the same brush. Now that speaks volumes.

Daz

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 08-04-13

The only positive thing about the bitch is that she wouldn't have had the balls to do half of what the twits Osbourne and Cameron are doing. I doubt she would have linked being on benefits with killing children.

She was "dangerously self-opinionated" according to ICN in 1948 when she went for a job interview as a chemist. And so it transpired.

Snobby Roberts.

Says it all.

Only downside the telly will be full of it for days.

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - VNA - 08-04-13

Quote:"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King Jr..

One wonders what Martin Luther King would have made of her support for apartheid. She considered Neilson Mandela to be a terrorist.

Whilst I'm not about to celebrate her death, I'm not going to pretend that she was anything else but a very nasty piece of work. Her death frankly is irrelevant, the damage she did has been done, the crimes she committed now long in the past and for which she can no longer be held to account. We live today with her legacy and I ain't gonna shed no tears for her.

And of course once again this country is being governed by a Tory government, albeit one with Lib Dem partners, that we did not vote for.

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - VNA - 08-04-13

I suppose I'd better give this a spin sometime tonight;

Mogwai "George Square Thatcher Death Party"

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - JoeRock - 08-04-13

If any of you had ever studied anything about economics you'd be mourning her death - under her rule an economy suffering a ridiculous level of inflation, held to ransome by unions was changed into a globally strong and powerful economy. Some of her moves were tough, yes, but if she hadn't had the balls to do what she had the ENTIRE UK economy would have entered a GREAT depression, akin to that suffered by Germany after WW1.
Unemployment may have been high during her period in office, but that was not her fault - you can trace this back to decades of under investment in the British economy by previous governments - it was her bad luck that it was during her time that this came to a head and drastic measures had to be taken.
She cut government spending massively, privatised hideously unprofitable branches that were previously gvoernment owned (improving profits and cutting customer prices in many cases as a result of this).
She didn't just benefit the rich either! She opened the stock markets to your everyday man, over a million families bought their own homes as a result of her policies, and the drop in income tax from 33% to 25% she instituted benefitted many less well off families.

Say what you like about her, she made a success of the country in one of it's darkest hours!

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 08-04-13

How delusional.

The UK and most of the western world are in deep mire and in far darker times than happened here in the 70s. The entire western capitalist system is collapsing under the greed of bankers, corporations, tax havens and fairy monopoly money, all unleashed initially by this bitch and continued with Blair and now the ConDems. Now these same people are blaming the benefit claimants for the world's ills and for killing children. And privatisation of the utilities and railways has resulted in entities in which no real competition can ever operate (I'd like to have different water and electricity delivered to my house, please) and which have become money-leeching cartels. Just like the bankers.

You have realised that it is socialism that is preventing the economic system from collapsing right now (privatise the profits, socialise the losses). However, even socialism isn't magical -- the system will collapse, then just you wait to see the social unrest. Poll tax riots are a kid's birthday party in comparison.

You need to open your eyes, mate.

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Tcat2001 - 08-04-13

Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - JoeRock - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:19 PM)Tcat2001 link Wrote: Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - ChrisJH - 08-04-13

Like or Loathe her (personally I have an equal measure of both) she will be remembered long after the current crop of politician's have faded into a distant memory

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:19 PM)Tcat2001 link Wrote: Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Struggling to understand how I can have the freedom of choice to choose which supplier's water molecules and electrons I can have delivered to my house.

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:21 PM)JoeRock link Wrote: [quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg68250#msg68250 date=1365448798]
Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

ANother good point!
You end up with a monopoly, as due to the lack of competition there is no emphasis on being profitable, so organisations become extremely wasteful - which we then pay for in taxes!
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Like the extremely wasteful, inefficient and socially useless private banks, which the taxpayer is paying for.

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - VNA - 08-04-13

Quote:If any of you had ever studied anything about economics you'd be mourning her death - under her rule an economy suffering a ridiculous level of inflation, held to ransome by unions was changed into a globally strong and powerful economy.

Yeah I remember under Thatcher getting a 12% pay rise as inflation had rocketed to some 10% by about 1990. A few years before that I got fleeced by her Poll Tax that took 1.5 months money out of my hands in tax.

Quote:Some of her moves were tough, yes, but if she hadn't had the balls to do what she had the ENTIRE UK economy would have entered a GREAT depression, akin to that suffered by Germany after WW1.

You mean like what we are in now? Isn't capitalism great!

Quote:Unemployment may have been high during her period in office

High? You bet it was. 4-5 million high, and she did it intentionally. And how did she do it, how did she cover all the social costs of the unemployment that she callously and intentionally created, you know the unemployment benefits etc etc.. Well she wrote a cheque with Scottish oil, the oil of which she kept lying about how much we had.

Quote:privatised hideously unprofitable branches that were previously gvoernment owned (improving profits and cutting customer prices in many cases as a result of this).

Are you foccing serious? Look around you at the massive monopolies delivering crap services, paying shitty wages to staff (how then need to claim benifits!) on poor terms and conditions (which in turn focs the economy) whilst paying poor performing bosses a fortune on which they pay little tax. What a success!

Quote:She opened the stock markets to your everyday man

Fleeced again, sold us what we already owned. Where is the stock market going these days? What happened to all the pension plans, remember those magical endowment capitalist fantasy policies.

Quote:over a million families bought their own homes as a result of her policies

And we now have some of the poorest housing stock in Europe. House prices are through the roof, and billions of pounds in benefits payments go not to claimants but to rich Tory Landlords. Councils have lost their rental income.

Quote:Say what you like about her, she made a success of the country in one of it's darkest hours!

You can trace the roots of where we are today, a bankrupt de-industrialised nation that makes nothing, stuck in a tripple dip recession with an even wider gap between rich and poor than ever before and with the same foccing idiots digging an even bigger hole for us all.

Roll on the 18th of September 2014!

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Tcat2001 - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:24 PM)peterjca link Wrote: [quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg68250#msg68250 date=1365448798]
Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - wannafazer - 08-04-13

apparently she'd only been in Hell a few hours when she shut three furnaces down :eek

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - VNA - 08-04-13

Quote:Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

You might want to read up on The East Coast Line.

Dumped by at least two private operators, as despite the subsidies (care to explain why bosses should be given millions of pounds when they are running subsidised services?) as they failed to make a go of it, loathed by passengers, it's back in public hands being run efficiently and on time - so what's gonna happen now - it's gonna be privatised!

What Thatcher has proved, what Major has proved, what Blair, Brown and Cameron have proved, is that privatisation of public utilities and services is a failure and the biggest ever rip off of public and tax payers funds. It's robbing the poor to pay the rich, and when it all falls apart, who steps in, why you've guessed us poor folks that got robbed in the first place!

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Tcat2001 - 08-04-13

Quote:You can trace the roots of where we are today, a bankrupt de-industrialised nation that makes nothing, stuck in a tripple dip recession with an even wider gap between rich and poor than ever before and with the same foccing idiots digging an even bigger hole for us all.

So those folks that ran the place from 97 to 2010 did what exactly?

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - peterjca - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:34 PM)Tcat2001 link Wrote: [quote author=peterjca link=topic=7157.msg68253#msg68253 date=1365449081]
[quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg68250#msg68250 date=1365448798]
Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Tcat2001 - 08-04-13

(08-04-13, 08:40 PM)peterjca link Wrote: [quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg68260#msg68260 date=1365449641]
[quote author=peterjca link=topic=7157.msg68253#msg68253 date=1365449081]
[quote author=Tcat2001 link=topic=7157.msg68250#msg68250 date=1365448798]
Can you explain how state owned utilities and rail companies encourages competiton and freedom of choice? Struggling to understand that one to be honest

Struggling to understand how I can have the freedom of choice to choose which supplier's water molecules and electrons I can have delivered to my house.
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Erm try this for a start. http://www.uswitch.com/
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Oh dear. You really don't understand what I said, do you? Have a think. The concept isn't hard....
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Nope I don't you're right. Not a clue how a single state owned utility company supplying the whole country gives you more choice than a multitude of privately owned utility companies. Let me go away and ponder some more because it must be something really obvious that I'm