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Re: Please vote for me! - Doddsie - 15-12-12
isnt asking someone to vote for you cheating? Surely this just means that the person with the most friends wins as apposed to the best picture???
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 15-12-12
I'm sure everyone is doing the same thing, and er, it's a voting competition? That's the whole idea, getting folk to vote? It's just a bit of fun.
The company are welcome to the photo. It was taken in a situation that was a really nice opportunity for me, so if it did well, then I'd not have any issue with them using it.
I've never entered a ompetition before, but I'm well aware of what companies do with them. If I wasn't happy, I wouldn't of entered it. So surely that's for me to decide? I never give photos away for free, this is the first time, and I did it because of the nature of the shoot, and publicity, not only for me, but for Derek too. So please, feel free to keep bumping Tzcatz
Re: Please vote for me! - VNA - 15-12-12
Not all competitions are the same.
Some competitions actually promote photography, are good for photographers, photography as a whole, offer decent prizes and respect photographers work and copyright.
This is not a photography competition that is in any way good for photography or photographers, it's a simple rights grab from a company that is looking to build an image bank that it can use to promote it's business. In fact the terms are so shoddy and loose I'm not sure that there is anything to stop them selling the images on for others to use. You are in effect sharing your copyright with Tate Oil.
It's not just a bit of fun, this competition and the many others of it's ilk are just one of the many reasons why it is incredibily hard these days to earn a living from photography, or for that matter hold any value or integrity in photography as a whole, not to mention they contribute to the general decline in quality of photography.
Of course sure, you are free to enter, free to give your images away to others, for them to use for their own selfish fiancial gain - it's a free world. But please forgive me if I scream and start tearing my hair out (not that there is much of it left these days :'( ) every-time I come across one of these all too common nasty cheap rights grabs so called competitions.
My tip would be to write to them, state you entered without paying to much attention to the terms, and having done so are shocked to find that you have given your photos away in a 'copyright grab' and want nothing further to do with their competition. It is also worth highlighting such 'competitions' to organisations such as the NUJ etc etc who campaign to stop such abuses and are trying to increase copyright protection in photography.
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 15-12-12
Nothing like putting a dampner on things eh. I have strong beliefs on photographers giving away images too. I have reason to not worry about this one inparticular.
Merry christmas!!!
Re: Please vote for me! - dickturpin - 15-12-12
Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 16-12-12
No I don't, on both those questions. I'm sorry if this offends you so much! Look on facebook, you see it all the time. Are they cheats too?
It was just a bit of fun. Please don't spoil it for what it is.
Re: Please vote for me! - VNA - 16-12-12
Sorry just commenting on what is a clear rights grab.
The so called competition sucks big time.
Re: Please vote for me! - Hodge - 16-12-12
Job done Tori.
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 16-12-12
Andy, they're a company that fill oil tanks in people's gardens. How many Photos of whales do you think they'll use?? Their website shows no animals whatsoever and I very much doubt a rights grab is what this is about.
Thanks to everyone who has looked/voted.
Re: Please vote for me! - Exupnut - 16-12-12
vote given. what starts as something fun can end up with u thinkin "why the FOC did i bother" there r more important things in life worthy of negativity tori so dont let it get u down. I VOTED WITHOUT LOOKIN AT THE PICTURE . OUCH!!!!!!
lets see what negative post's that comment brings hahahahahaha
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 16-12-12
Thanks ;-) Nope, still smiling
Re: Please vote for me! - VNA - 16-12-12
Quote:Andy, they're a company that fill oil tanks in people's gardens. How many Photos of whales do you think they'll use?? Their website shows no animals whatsoever and I very much doubt a rights grab is what this is about.
I think they might just be a little bit bigger than that!
The first thing you see when you visit their web site is a picture of a Lizard (or whatever it is) which fits in beautifully with their corporate colours.
It is a rights grab, read the rules, whether these rules have been made up naively or intentionally I do not know. But certainly tossing somebody a kindle for endless photos, competition after competition, that they can make full use of and possibly even sell on is very good value for Tate Oil.
You know it's not that hard to write the rules such that the copyright of the photographers is both respected and protected (they could even offer a decent prize which would be nice) and they would still be able to use the winning images in connection with the competitions on their web site - which makes me ask - why the full rights grab. Are they naive and ignorant of copyright or taking advantage naive photographers in order to build an image bank for their business. I don't know, but I do know I want nothing to do with it.
Re: Please vote for me! - DryRob - 16-12-12
Christ I hope they won't use this competition as a proxy and I end up voting to support commercial whaling/seal clubbing/big game hunting.
Tori, can I retract my vote? :lol
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 16-12-12
Rob, I don't think so! :lol :lol
Re: Please vote for me! - Chillum - 16-12-12
(15-12-12, 11:58 PM)dickturpin link Wrote: Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
Hey numb-nuts - if I thought that the picture was shite I wouldn't have voted for it - Tori just made me aware she was in a competition and to have a look-see.
Mind you, my kitten has gone missing and I was sent an ear-tuft in the post yesterday - so it's not like I had a choice is it? :lol
Re: Please vote for me! - phillywilly - 16-12-12
(15-12-12, 11:58 PM)dickturpin link Wrote: Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
i bet you,re a laugh a minute at the christmas party arent you
why be so critical ?
it certainly is one of the best on there (beluga whale ,close par
)i could understand it if she rode a cbr or ninja :rollin
Re: Please vote for me! - Tori - 16-12-12
(16-12-12, 05:33 PM)Chillum link Wrote: [quote author=dickturpin link=topic=5551.msg48745#msg48745 date=1355612311]
Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
Hey numb-nuts - if I thought that the picture was shite I wouldn't have voted for it - Tori just made me aware she was in a competition and to have a look-see.
Mind you, my kitten has gone missing and I was sent an ear-tuft in the post yesterday - so it's not like I had a choice is it?
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*strokes kitty*
(16-12-12, 07:14 PM)phillywilly link Wrote: [quote author=dickturpin link=topic=5551.msg48745#msg48745 date=1355612311]
Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
i bet you,re a laugh a minute at the christmas party arent you
why be so critical ?
it certainly is one of the best on there (beluga whale ,close par
)i could understand it if she rode a cbr or ninja :rollin
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:lol :lol
Re: Please vote for me! - Skippernick - 16-12-12
Errr..... surely politicians ask for your vote, just dressed up in pretty bullish*t.
Re: Please vote for me! - dickturpin - 16-12-12
(16-12-12, 05:33 PM)Chillum link Wrote: [quote author=dickturpin link=topic=5551.msg48745#msg48745 date=1355612311]
Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
Hey numb-nuts - if I thought that the picture was shite I wouldn't have voted for it - Tori just made me aware she was in a competition and to have a look-see.
Mind you, my kitten has gone missing and I was sent an ear-tuft in the post yesterday - so it's not like I had a choice is it? :lol
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No she didn't, she said 'please vote for me'. That in my book is canvassing. Had she simply done as you think she did and simply made you aware of the competition then no problem. As someone else said, this simply ends up with the entrant with the most mates winning! That's my point, numb nuts or not!
Re: Please vote for me! - Hodge - 16-12-12
(15-12-12, 11:58 PM)dickturpin link Wrote: Do you ask other people to vote for you on other forums too?
Do you do the same on the foc.u photo comps which are also 'a bit of fun'?
(16-12-12, 01:25 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:Andy, they're a company that fill oil tanks in people's gardens. How many Photos of whales do you think they'll use?? Their website shows no animals whatsoever and I very much doubt a rights grab is what this is about.
I think they might just be a little bit bigger than that!
The first thing you see when you visit their web site is a picture of a Lizard (or whatever it is) which fits in beautifully with their corporate colours.
It is a rights grab, read the rules, whether these rules have been made up naively or intentionally I do not know. But certainly tossing somebody a kindle for endless photos, competition after competition, that they can make full use of and possibly even sell on is very good value for Tate Oil.
You know it's not that hard to write the rules such that the copyright of the photographers is both respected and protected (they could even offer a decent prize which would be nice) and they would still be able to use the winning images in connection with the competitions on their web site - which makes me ask - why the full rights grab. Are they naive and ignorant of copyright or taking advantage naive photographers in order to build an image bank for their business. I don't know, but I do know I want nothing to do with it.
Get over it guys. You are not being forced to vote. If you don't want to support Tori that is your choice but do stop spouting such vitriol.