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Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - MadDogMcQ - 26-08-12
I managed to have a good rideout yesterday afternoon. First thing to say, is the Exup rattle has completely disappeared. :rolleyes Go figure it!
As for the Ivanising, I am happy to report that everything is tickety-boo. IMHO the transformation isn't night and day, but it is significant. Much more responsive all-round and definitely bonkers top end. In all situations, she just picks up her skirt much more readily and really gets a lick on. Nice and tractable around town. Starting is marginally better.
This kit (with 3rd party installation) cost me £250. Was it worth it? Well, during a recession and at a time when I also had to buy new tyres, chain and sprocket, I felt like I was being frivolous, but in all other circumstances I would consider it good value. It's basically the same cost as a pair of good tyres. On other bikes, I've had Power Commanders fitted and paid for multiple Dyno runs to tune it, so in that respect, it's a good buy.
If you do the installation work yourself, then it's a no-brainer! Top Value!!
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Tom
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Rusty - 26-08-12
That's good news then. I'll order my Ivan's kit as soon as I get back from soaking up the Spanish sun.
I don't think Ivanised bikes fetch any more than standard when it comes to selling them on, but that could be said for most aftermarket add ons. As I see it the enhanced riding experience reported while owning the bike makes the mod worthwhile, so looking at it that way it isn't at all frivolous.
I wonder if your mpg figures will change at all? Given that the mods (and accompanying blue flame soundtrack) might encourage more spirited riding they could fall I suppose, but that won't be down to the kit but due to different usage.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - jackojet - 26-08-12
The standard bike for me, was a faff to start not knowing if choke was needed, there also was a surge from 2k revs as you opened the throttle . This was really annoying especially 2up. The engine felt throttled and restricted.
When Mike fitted my full monty and I went for a test ride it felt totally transformed .
It's been the best mod since derestricting my old 2 strokes all those years ago.
Apart from easier starting, I have less vibes, no surging and instant power from tickover right to the redline. The midrange any gear any revs is where it becomes addictive. The top end rush is not unfamilar apart from airbox roar of my gixxer thou.
Fitting a full system has added to the urgency of that liberated engine find using 3rd more than 2nd, and use the flexibity like a elastic band.
On my bike I have removed the vibe deadening weights behind footrests and rubber pegs . Even my renthal bars use small bar ends. Can't report bad vibes.
The only thing I can say that may be causing vibes is poor carb balance, Mike did mine after doing the installation of the jetkit.
That must of been over 4 yrs ago now .
And in still one happy owner, well worth it.
Jacko
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - jackojet - 26-08-12
Maddog your bike looks great, a credit to you, hope you enjoy it now jet kit fitted
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - MadDogMcQ - 26-08-12
(26-08-12, 02:37 PM)jackojet link Wrote: Maddog your bike looks great, a credit to you, hope you enjoy it now jet kit fitted
Thanks mate, but it's not the mintest bike I've had, by far! But it only owes me £2700 (plus recent mods), so unlike many other bikes I've owned, I'm not fussing over it all the time. If I get a scratch on it through a lazy leg-over, so what. Downpipes looking grubby? So what? I like this new attitude - I'm actually liking a bike for what it does instead of for how it looks
Having said that, if I had the money, I'd buy something like CaleTie's beauty.
JUST BEEN IVANISED! - cable tie - 26-08-12
(26-08-12, 06:34 PM)MadDogMcQ link Wrote: [quote author=jackojet link=topic=4366.msg36464#msg36464 date=1345988250]
Maddog your bike looks great, a credit to you, hope you enjoy it now jet kit fitted
Having said that, if I had the money, I'd buy something like CaleTie's beauty.
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Thx for the comment it's very pleasing when other peeps appreciate what you have done to a bike, and it gets a few admired looks when parked up, However I would have been a fool to part with it and deffo a stupid idea when it's worth moth balling rather than selling im so glad you lot gave me advice that really me really sit down and think otherwise I'd have regretted this one for sure.
Regarding vibes I think about every gen1 has em, short journeys and bimbling around you won't even feel them it's only when you sit a a certain high speed mine is in the 85 mph for long period ie to and fro the ferry, you most notice them the most, I did have them in my right throttle gave me white finger after long periods now I've change the ohlins top steering damper to a frame mount type there gone !! no doubt moved elsewhere, one thing I notice I can go out for couple hundred mile blast with a variety of short blasts and consistent speeds and not notice anything !!
Dave.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Rusty - 26-08-12
You're right on that cable tie 80-85 is where it's at but go to 90+ and it's fine. Must be the famous inherent in-line four tingle I've read about, although I've had plenty in line 4's that never did it. Having said that I still think the best engine characteristics for me are those of the the big Triumph triple which is what I use as a yardstick, and I'm beginning to miss those. Never been happy at (relatively) revving the nuts of a thing to make it go.
Ooh...er, am I beginning to doubt the Fazer thou.[size=78%] [/size] :eek
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Falcon 269 - 27-08-12
(26-08-12, 11:40 PM)Rusty link Wrote: [size=1em] Must be the famous inherent in-line four tingle I've read about ... [/size]
I agree.
This motor has no balance shaft and although it's rubber-mounted, secondary vibes will always been present at certain revs.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - pitternator - 27-08-12
Its interesting cos in the 90s I suffred terribly with white finger from bar vibrations from pretty much all my bikes....eg My hand went numb just a few miles on a test ride of the VTR 1000....had to buy a VFR750 cos it was smoother! ( though I still got a bit numb)
Yet I never suffer with much vibes on a fazer , ridden 75 k miles on them, at all speeds...gentle bimbling to 150 mad cruise down the autobahn.Worst thing for me is sticking to french D road limits ( 50 to 60 mph), engine feels slightly rough , get vibes a tad in the bars, also through the right footpeg...dead smooth everywhere else.Its one reason I bought a touring bike and pushed the fazer into the fast bike role...that plus the daft amount of power even in top meant keeping to any limit on tours is a feat of throttlemanship ! lol ...yet even the dedicated comfy touring bike gives some vibes through the right footpeg, enuff to make me lift me foot off to cure it. So all bikes have some, somewhere in the rev range...
best bikes IMO for vibes which add character and no discomfort are definitely Triumph triples...
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Rusty - 27-08-12
It appears then judging from the comments that my bike isn't wrong - I am. :lol
To be honest the problem could easily be ridden around by simply going slightly faster or slower, so an adjustment in riding habits would cure it. I still tend to ride the bike like I did my Bandit 1200 or the Triumph triples I've owned, both of which had lots of lazy low down torque. As I get older (52) I tend to want more torque and less revs, I'm mostly satisfied at sane speeds these days and despite the odd burst of speed 'cos I can't help it officer' most of my town riding is done short shifting in the 5k rev area and that's bang on where the vibes are.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - jackojet - 27-08-12
These vibes then?
I thought that's what reminded me in sat on an engine, tingles yes, vibes no.
Numb hands get that after a while in the saddle. I thought this normal, as it's nowt compared to the pain you get at slow speed riding on the gixxer! :'(
JUST BEEN IVANISED! - cable tie - 27-08-12
Jon, your new touring bike will get better with the miles it's a known fact as the engine runs in, mine did not have them however mine was far from standard and having a pc may have solved that issue you have with it !! also I note you say you use the gen 1 as your fast bike now, I'm sure on the new steed you will be able to cover the same rd not faster but quicker I'll put money on that.
If peeps want to try to eliminate the vibes visit the us forum they tried everything possible and i mean everything they go to extreme lengths to try to rectify the above it's a massive discussion over there and they still have em, they never go they just move elsewhere within the bike and so sometimes you will feel em less.
Dave.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - pitternator - 30-08-12
dave
It has bedded in very well, now 5k miles up.Thing is when the tourer is flat out m8( 130 )...the fazer is still accelerating ! lol
TBH on any road up to the ton the quicker steering of the tourer will be an advantage, especially in B roads, but the awesome shunt of the full monty at so little throttle openings is quite overwhelming, like having a giant hand shoving you forward .Having said that , do I really want to ride round everywhere at warp speed all the time...so thats where the tourer comes in cos it is definitely easier to just cruise on it. Vibe wise its about 85 mph where it can send me right foot to sleep now and then, but no great problem.
What I am pleased with the fazer is how well the K tech sussies have now bedded in, working really well, the ride quality is improving from the early days when I was so miffed.
Cant beat the electronic damping adjustment on the tourer though ! Must PM you cos I do fancy trying a PC3 on it...and losing the cat.
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Fazerjon - 30-08-12
Bike looks lovely mate, but you need to lose the chicken strips!!
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - MadDogMcQ - 30-08-12
(24-08-12, 11:01 PM)MadDogMcQ link Wrote: Don't worry Pete - I'm very mindful of the fact that I've got brand new rubber and 150BHP :lol
FAZERJON : :rolleyes
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - Fazerjon - 31-08-12
Obviously I meant when the tyres are more scrubbed in. I wouldn't mind another Gen1 to be honest, a hell of a lot more comfortable than my Gen2. Trouble is I dont think I could justify (or afford) to add another bike to my fleet, I'm currently running the FZ1N, a 600 Hornet and building a 1200 Bandit Hardtail chop!! Enjoy your bike, take it easy (to start with!)
Re: JUST BEEN IVANISED! - MadDogMcQ - 04-09-12
Proudly placed my Ivans sticker tonight
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