(09-01-21, 04:22 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Wrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.

(09-01-21, 04:28 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=17546.msg322485#msg322485 date=1610205758]
Wrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.

(09-01-21, 04:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Gnasher link=topic=17546.msg322486#msg322486 date=1610206119]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=17546.msg322485#msg322485 date=1610205758]
Wrong. Go and read the Government website on the rules of support bubbles. Also there are no restrictions on the on the size of the supporting bubbled household. And no restriction on the distance needed to travel to do the support Go and read the Government website there is no grey - its all in black and white.

• This reinforces what Gnasher has said - in order words use common sense, don't be traveling 100+ miles. Also these kinds of distances will potentially run afoul of Teir travel restrictions/guidelines.
  
• And to counter the 'its all there in black and white' statement,  the above "it is best" statement above completely shuts that argument down. Clearly the government are completely incapable of being black and white about the rules, so how can they expect the population to?
  
• Regarding the number of people allowed in a support bubble, again the government have been unclear. But common sense should take over here. For example you could logically interoperate the pre-existing 'rule of six'. If both support bubbles combined is over six then, then don't be turning up with with the wife and kids. Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting withing 2m of the person your doing the support visit for.
  

(09-01-21, 05:11 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: From the government website -

What is a support bubble?
"If you form a support bubble, it is best if this is with a household who live locally. This will help prevent the virus spreading from an area where more people are infected." 

• This reinforces what Gnasher has said - in order words use common sense, don't be traveling 100+ miles. Also these kinds of distances will potentially run afoul of Teir travel restrictions/guidelines.
  
• And to counter the 'its all there in black and white' statement,  the above "it is best" statement above completely shuts that argument down. Clearly the government are completely incapable of being black and white about the rules, so how can they expect the population to?
  
• Regarding the number of people allowed in a support bubble, again the government have been unclear. But common sense should take over here. For example you could logically interoperate the pre-existing 'rule of six'. If both support bubbles combined is over six then, then don't be turning up with with the wife and kids. Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting withing 2m of the person your doing the support visit for.
  

You cant fix stupid, turns out you can't quarantine it either. But moving on, this thread is bordering on getting political. Find something else to discuss chaps.

Quote:Also these kinds of distances will potentially run afoul of Teir travel restrictions/guidelines.

Quote:"Regarding the number of people allowed in a support bubble, again the government have been unclear."

Quote:Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting within 2m of the person your doing the support visit for

(09-01-21, 05:37 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: More twats https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55601600


Or rather C*&ts  :evil

(09-01-21, 05:38 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Wrong - its perfectly clear
from the gov.uk site ---You can form a support bubble with another household of any size

Quote:Then when you do have to do a support visit, don't be getting within 2m of the person your doing the support visit for

.Wrong also

(09-01-21, 05:38 PM)fazersharp link Wrote:
from the gov.uk site you do not need to maintain social distance with people in your support bubble

(09-01-21, 06:00 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Who mentioned anything about this?

I appears as always you don't read things fully before, going off half cocked  :lol

As said if the cap fits wear it  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

(09-01-21, 06:00 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: One person living alone can yes, as said my previous these I'm referring to aren't living alone, they're are living with their wife/husbands or partners. With family mum/dad and the kids turning up after driving a 100 miles plus.  Not a support bubble just selfish twats  :finger

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: You can also have both a support bubble and a childcare bubble. So for instance we have my wife's best friend for a support bubble as she is a single mum of a 7 year old and has no family (except a Dad who's in a care home with dementia) then we are also in a child car bubble with the in laws so that they can have the kids over at theirs every now and again (their choice not ours)

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: But on the note of the lockdown, I took my kids down the seafront for our daily walk and it was packed! May aswell gave been the middle of the summer. Roads aren't really any emptier either.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: I read on the news about how the Gov is moaning that more and more people are bending the rules but honestly what do they expect. After nearly a full year of restrictions People are sick to death of it all. I honestly don't know anyone that supports these restrictions or think they work and the vast majority of people would rather just be left to get on with it.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: I think the disillusion is starting to set it with even the strictest of people because it feels like you can't win. You follow the rules, don't see your family, lose all your savings... and yet you still get locked down.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: So you may as well have ignored it all and did what you wanted.... you'd be in the same position now either way

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: On the plus side if the infection keeps spreading the way it is we will have all had it by the end of winter. Heard immunity achieved and the government can make some money sleeing off all the vaccines to poorer countries

(09-01-21, 07:08 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: They probably are just selfish twats but the defnition of alone includes households of more than one where the people are ill, acting as carers etc. My dad doesnt live alone. HE lives with my step mum who is undergoing cancer treatment so he is her carer. Under the rules he can form a bubble with another household. Being sensible though, he is keeping himself to himself and myself/brother are just meeting him on his driveway once or twice a week for a socially distanced beer to keep his spirits up. Its feccin cold this time of year though!!

(09-01-21, 07:16 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=Dudeofrude link=topic=17546.msg322503#msg322503 date=1610212878]
You can also have both a support bubble and a childcare bubble. So for instance we have my wife's best friend for a support bubble as she is a single mum of a 7 year old and has no family (except a Dad who's in a care home with dementia) then we are also in a child car bubble with the in laws so that they can have the kids over at theirs every now and again (their choice not ours)

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: But on the note of the lockdown, I took my kids down the seafront for our daily walk and it was packed! May aswell gave been the middle of the summer. Roads aren't really any emptier either.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: I read on the news about how the Gov is moaning that more and more people are bending the rules but honestly what do they expect. After nearly a full year of restrictions People are sick to death of it all. I honestly don't know anyone that supports these restrictions or think they work and the vast majority of people would rather just be left to get on with it.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: I think the disillusion is starting to set it with even the strictest of people because it feels like you can't win. You follow the rules, don't see your family, lose all your savings... and yet you still get locked down.

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: So you may as well have ignored it all and did what you wanted.... you'd be in the same position now either way

(09-01-21, 06:21 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: On the plus side if the infection keeps spreading the way it is we will have all had it by the end of winter. Heard immunity achieved and the government can make some money sleeing off all the vaccines to poorer countries

(09-01-21, 07:18 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: I'm guessing you're not driving 200 plus miles round trip 

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: But the problem is that there will never be a 100% compliance around the general public.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: And of this virus spreads in the way they say it does then it only takes a few people not to comply and the whole thing goes tits up.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [
Not to mention the amount of people that just don't care about the risk. They aren't worried about getting it or worried about giving it to anyone.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: So the point being this asking everyone to behave approach isn't ever going to work.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: If everyone did exactly as they were told then there wouldn't be any crime would there

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Add to the fact that every man and his dog is a 'key worker' these days and you realise that this isn't really any kind of lockdown.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: The only people that are at home are the ones that work in pubs, gyms, hotels, shops or personal care. Around here between the supermarkets, factories, hospitals and docks I'd say well over 60% of people are still going about daily life as normal. In fact I dont actually know another person that has to stay at home like me.

(09-01-21, 07:37 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: So really the only options are a 100% lockdown of everyone (as done in other countries) ,keep faffing about like they are (which is getting us nowhere), or just don't bother. And I think we know which one its going to be

(09-01-21, 01:44 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Twats who think lockdown rules don't apply to them and have scant regard for their relatives or others :finger :evil

I live in a very quiet area in the countryside, I'm the easily the youngest by at least 15 yrs or so.  My road/cul-de-sac is mainly just drive ways with the odd bit of parking on the road leading to it, the road is normally empty save the odd car.  This morning it's full I mean rammed, 12 cars, driven by 40 - 60yrs olds who don't live here, some with kids visiting mum/dad etc, I know a good few live in London and East Anglia, which are between 120 - 170 miles away one way :eek :eek :eek

WTF, they're just not getting it no wonder this thing is spreading like wildfire, when mum/dad/nan/grandad catch it and die they'll be saying "I don't know how he/she got it we were so careful" TWATS absolute C*^ts  :evil