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Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - fazersharp - 26-05-19
(26-05-19, 11:32 PM)mtread link Wrote: Well the regions are still declaring, but I'm predicting that there will be more Remain MEPs than Leave ones.Eh :rolleyes -- is your name mtread Abbott
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - VNA - 27-05-19
UKIP, the victors last time round are finished.
The BREXIT party, formed last week by Nigel, are the victors this time round.
The BREXIT party has no manifesto and only one policy. It’s leader wants the NHS to cease. The BREXIT party is a one man band.
What is clear, from these results, is that if you were to re-run the 2016 referendum, ie have a second EU referendum, REMAIN would win.
And of course, the reality is that tonight’s vote changes little. Parliament will not allow a NO DEAL BREXIT. The UK must REMAIN in at least a Customs Union in order to respect the legal document known as The Good Friday Agreement. That is it changes little, other than that we may be witnessing the death of the Conservative Party.
As for the BREXIT Party, with only one policy, come a general election it will nose dive, just as UKIP did.
What you see tonight is the beginning of the end.
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
Quote: Eh -- is your name mtread Abbott
Er no. I just understand how the d'Hondt system works. Do you?
There will be more Lib Dem + Green + SNP + Plaid Cymru + Labour MEPs than there are Brexit Party + UKIP ones.
I'm leaving the Tories out of the calculation as they are 50:50
The majority UK representation in the EU Parliament will be pro Europe
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
The Brexit Party insisting it has a role in negotiating leaving the EU :lol
Fat chance, you have no representation in the UK Parliament.
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - YamFazFan - 27-05-19
So a victorious night for Remain then.
Where is the celebration party taking place?. Hope the champagne lasts all night :lol
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
Just a couple of Light Ales in the Hand and Racquet
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
Just seen the Northwest result come in, and it's great for one very good reason
So off to bed.
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - fazersharp - 27-05-19
(27-05-19, 12:05 AM)mtread link Wrote:Here are the results so far for EU seats. Scotland are still to announce and so are NI
There will be more Lib Dem + Green + SNP + Plaid Cymru + Labour MEPs than there are Brexit Party + UKIP ones.
I'm leaving the Tories out of the calculation as they are 50:50
The majority UK representation in the EU Parliament will be pro Europe
- Brexit party 28 seats
- lib dem 15
- labour 10
- green 7
- con 3
- plaid 1
labour trying to please both sides, no one knows what they want so you cant say people voted for them on a pro EU ticket 10 seats
Greens are pro EU but people are not voting for them because of that - they are voting for the green issue. 7 seats
As you said yourself we will ignor the Cons 3 seats.
Snp are predicted to have 3 seats delivered to them by pro indy voters.
So the only party that you can truly say is pro EU and want to cancel brexit are LibDem 15 seats compared to Brexit Party 28 seats ( who campaigned on a WTO Brexit )
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - fazersharp - 27-05-19
- Brexit party 28 seats
- lib dem 15
- labour 10
- green 7
- con 3
- plaid 1
So that gives 22 1/2 remain vs 28 Leave. Voices in the remain camp call for a "confirmatory vote" . Well we have just had one and told them yet again its LEAVE
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
Quote: Greens are pro EU but people are not voting for them because of that - they are voting for the green issueNonsense. There you go, putting your spin on the outcome. Just coincidence that Labour won most of its seats in strong Remain areas?
So, not only will Remain have more MEPs than Leave, but they got a bigger share of the vote.
Second Referendum? Bring it on.
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - Grahamm - 27-05-19
Now let's try looking at that another way...
Using *your* calculation method:
The Brexit Party got less than a third of the total votes, 32% and UKIP got 3%, plus half of Conservative and Labour giving 46.5%
The Lib Dems, Greens, half of Labour and half of the Conservatives plus SNP, Change and Plaid means that Remain parties got 53.5%
There's your democratic confirmation, the will of the people has switched from Leave to Remain.
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
As confirmed by the BBC
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - nick crisp - 27-05-19
What's more interesting to me is the increasing strength of anti-EU feeling across Europe generally. By the time Remain get a win, there'll be no more EU to remain in :lol
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - celticdog - 27-05-19
latest news- the brexit party have just released their new 'milkshake proof' uniform . . .
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - mtread - 27-05-19
Quote: Greens are pro EU but people are not voting for them because of that - they are voting for the green issueThat's exactly what Ann Widdecombe said. Are you dancing partners? :lol
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - fazersharp - 27-05-19
(27-05-19, 12:33 PM)mtread link Wrote:If you really wanted to remain you would vote Lib Dem otherwise you risk splitting the vote, so you wouldn't vote green for remain, you vote green for the green issue -who have gained momentum on the back of the recent protests.Quote: Greens are pro EU but people are not voting for them because of that - they are voting for the green issueThat's exactly what Ann Widdecombe said. Are you dancing partners? :lol
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - YamFazFan - 27-05-19
(27-05-19, 10:22 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: There's your democratic confirmation, the will of the people has switched from Leave to Remain.As clearly displayed by this results map of England and Wales :lol ...
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - agricola - 27-05-19
(27-05-19, 02:21 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=24678.msg298297#msg298297 date=1558948960]As clearly displayed by this results map of England and Wales :lol ...
There's your democratic confirmation, the will of the people has switched from Leave to Remain.
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Yes, the Re-Moaners can put whatever spin they like on the results, but the party winning thew biggest number of seats campaigned for Exit. Those parties campaigning for Remain won far fewer seats. Simples. You can overanaylise things as much as you like, but its another campaign in which you have finished second
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - fazersharp - 27-05-19
So what would the results be if this was general election
Re: TALKING B****CKS THREAD - YamFazFan - 27-05-19
This is the first election I've ever seen where the party that came second with almost half the seats of the winning one has still claimed outright victory :rolleyes