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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 01-04-19
So if I have got this correct.
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options.
Scotland has not voted for May's deal.
Three things are clear tonight.
Scotland is prepared to do a deal.
The Tory party continues to prevent any deal going through.
The Tory party continues to drive this union into the ground.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 02-04-19
Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votes
What is more amazing is that the DUP voted against Nick Boles' 'Customs Union + Single Market' vote. A vote which allows the UK to leave the EU, recognises the result of the referendum and removes the need for the Irish Backstop. Everything they have been asking for, yet they voted against it :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 02-04-19
(01-04-19, 10:16 PM)VNA link Wrote: So if I have got this correct.[/quote]
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options. [quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg295800#msg295800 date=1554160644]
Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votes
Fight! Fight! Fight! :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 02-04-19
Quote: Fight! Fight! Fight!
Nah.... we're not Leavers
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 02-04-19
Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit'
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
Quote:So if I have got this correct.
Scotland's MPs tonight have voted positively for all 4 options.
Quote:Not quite. The SNP abstained on Ken Clarke's 'Customs Union only' vote, which lead to it losing by 3 votesI stand corrected. Jumped in too quick there.#
But yes, the Tory party continues to block any deal. The very same people who pressurised Cameron into offering a referendum, are now effectively preventing BREXIT in their delusional and reckless pursuit of NO DEAL.
Quote:Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit' [img alt=She is clearly rejecting NO DEAL and asking for a further extension. But it remains anybody’s guess if any sort of deal can be reached. This is still all about the Troy Party.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 02-04-19
Her 'good reason' for asking the EU for an extension will be based on the 'cooperation' element. As you say 'No Deal' is obviously off the table, and I expect some cabinet resignations shortly
She'll bet on half the Tories plus most of Labour going for a softer Brexit, and that would get it over the line.
Labour will lay down conditions. It much depends on whether one of them is that any new deal is put to a referendum.
Corbyn won't be easy to deal with.....
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
NO DEAL is still the default position. We leave on the 12[sup]th[/sup] April.
We are reliant on the EU offering an extension. I’m not sure that – having a chat with Jeremy is going to cut the mustard. But lets see what happens.
This is getting desperate. And if all that is achieved is a customs union, which is what I expect, well there is then a high possibility of a second Scottish Independence referendum. If that happens, the Tories will refuse permission, the Scottish Parliament will do it anyway and the UK’s constructional crises will continue to get worse.
The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
This, as predicted, is a already an economic disaster for the UK economy;
Quote:Brexit uncertainty has cost Britain £600 million a week - Goldman Sachshttps://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-goldmansachs/brexit-uncertainty-has-cost-britain-600-million-a-week-goldman-sachs-idUKKCN1RD1T8
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 02-04-19
(02-04-19, 07:21 PM)VNA link Wrote: NO DEAL is still the default position. We leave on the 12[sup]th[/sup] April.
We are reliant on the EU offering an extension. I’m not sure that – having a chat with Jeremy is going to cut the mustard. But lets see what happens.
This is getting desperate. And if all that is achieved is a customs union, which is what I expect, well there is then a high possibility of a second Scottish Independence referendum. If that happens, the Tories will refuse permission, the Scottish Parliament will do it anyway and the UK’s constructional crises will continue to get worse.
The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.
You have to be careful with referendums. Youve lost the last 2 :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
Quote:You have to be careful with referendums. Youve lost the last 2 [img alt=:lol width=20 height=20]http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///C:/Users/garet/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]Yes indeed. The last three actually;
2011 United Kingdom Alternative Vote referendum
2014 Scottish Independence referendum
2016 EU referendum
If you wanna know what the result of any upcoming referendum will be – just ask me how I am voting – the opposite will be the result.
However I wouldn’t ever swap being on the right side for being on the winning side.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 02-04-19
(02-04-19, 06:18 PM)mtread link Wrote: Stop Press. May's latest announcement this evening 'The Labour Party is now in charge of Brexit'
You do realise this is only so, if it all goes tits-up, she can blame it on Corbyn...!
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 02-04-19
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 02-04-19
Quote: The Tories have once again completely fucked everything up.Indeed. You have to wonder why May didn't seek cooperation two years ago.
O yes I know. It's because it would have split the Tory party even earlier...
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-04-19
The EU would refuse to open trade talks with Britain after a no-deal Brexit until the UK decided to sign up to the main elements of the withdrawal agreement anyway, the European Commission has said.
Speaking in the European parliament on Wednesday, Jean-Claude Juncker said the Irish border, citizens’ rights and the divorce bill would need to be agreed before any other negotiations could begin.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-theresa-may-corbyn-pmqs-no-deal-customs-union-a8852011.html
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-04-19
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-04-19
You gotta love this one............................... :lol
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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Slaninar - 07-04-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhMdT_C-vQ
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 07-04-19
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