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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 03:08 PM)mtread link Wrote: And one person's estimate from looking at a helicopter image? Be serious :lolI thought you remainers liked the expert's.
Quote:No you're not 'interested in trying to find a true estimate '. You're just trying to discredit.You can have your 1m if you like - I am not trying to discredit it at all. I am just seeing some odd reporting of the numbers.
Quote:Anyway, I'll ask again, how many at Fartage's march?There again I have been googling to try and find out but the results are being swamped with anti brexit stuff mainly about London. I think there are a core set of marchers between 70-150 doing the whole thing.Its one thing for the champagne socialist to go and have a short stroll in London - maybe take in a theatre whilst there or that little Rupert and Poppy to the park, and a totally different thing to commit to walking 270 miles in 14 days.Sums up the difference between remain who are just looking at short term gains and rewards and the leavers who are looking wider at the long term.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
Better a champagne socialist than Farage's Brexit Gammon
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 03:08 PM)mtread link Wrote: I was there.So you keep reminding us :z
Just in case anyone hasn't got the message yet....
mtread was at the champagne socialists, overturn democracy march on saturday :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 03:08 PM)mtread link Wrote: No you're not 'interested in trying to find a true estimate '. You're just trying to discredit.And you're not interested in democracy if it doesn't result in the outcome you wanted.
You just try to discredit the legitimate result and want us to keep voting again and again until you get the answer you want.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
Democracy isn't just a one off event.
You don't want a second referendum because you know you would lose.... heavily :lol
OK hands up who's going to Farage's Leave Means Leave march.... come on now don't be shy..... Thought not. No conviction.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 06:31 PM)mtread link Wrote: Democracy isn't just a one off event.
OK then, best of three if Remain were to win a second vote?.
No thought not :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
No, the next one is final, of course
No idea what the question would be, mind you
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
Seriously though.... what is May's plan? She isn't putting through her plan for a 3rd because she knows it will fail again, and she won't follow Parliament's indicative votes. Without arguing.... what's going on? She's only got until the 12th. It's clear the EU won't move. Is she waiting for someone else to blink again?
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 25-03-19
I think the EU wouldn't mind a no deal - neither would May but none of them wants to be the one that has brought it about.May asked for an extension because she did not want to be the one that brought about a no deal. So the EU naturally granted the extension so that they are not the one seen to bring about a no deal, brexit tennis.The people want a no deal. -- See its easy to say, just like when remainers say "the people want a new referendum" .
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 25-03-19
Listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MGf0p7gNYg
Now listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxjumUhji0
Is it just me or do they sound the same :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 25-03-19
Quote:mtread was at the champagne socialists, overturn democracy march on saturday :lol
Well done that man.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 25-03-19
Quote:That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............
I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck. MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal. MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people. This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal. Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
May’s Deal.
or
Cancel Article 50
It will be legally binding. There will be no further referendum.
Get it?
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
Quote: brexit tennis.Can't be that. People move around in tennis.
What's a game where everybody stays perfectly still for months on end and doesn't blink? Brexit Statues.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 09:34 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............
I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck. MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal. MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people. This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal. Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
May’s Deal.
or
Cancel Article 50
It will be legally binding. There will be no further referendum.
Get it?
That's not why the Remainers are demanding it though. They keep telling us that 'the people have changed their mind' and want another vote. They were saying that months ago.
You keep telling us that the people have changed their mind.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 25-03-19
Chicken?
![[Image: D2c8V5_W0AAcP8K.jpg:large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2c8V5_W0AAcP8K.jpg:large)
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 09:44 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=VNA link=topic=24678.msg295368#msg295368 date=1553546069]That's not why the Remainers are demanding it though. They keep telling us that 'the people have changed their mind' and want another vote. They were saying that months ago.
Quote:That if you lose that one you'll demand a third....and a fourth............
I do wonder if you are really understanding this YamFazFan.
The argument for, and the reason why, the government may have to return this issue to the people is that parliament is stuck. MP’s are not prepared to vote for what they see is a shit deal. MP’s are not prepared to allow a NO DEAL BREXIT as it would be devastating for our economy.
Therefore, unless they find a way to move forwards (Norway?) they will have to put the question to the people. This is not a second referendum on the EU, it is a referendum on the deal. Do you want it or not...... The question will be;
May’s Deal.
or
Cancel Article 50
It will be legally binding. There will be no further referendum.
Get it?
you keep telling us that the people have changed their mind.
[/quote]Where is the evidence for this remainers Unicorn "the people have changed their mind/want another vote" .
Is it the 5million votes on the gov site or is it the 350,000 that the experts say did the London march short stroll Even if you add them both up (which is being generous as the strollers will of also added to the petition ) that is still only 6 million at best which still leaves the other 10 million who voted to remain -- perhaps it its those missing 10 million that have changed their mind and want another vote to LEAVE.Especially after it has become clear to them that their unicorn of remaining and reforming will NEVER work.Is there any remainer that says the EU is perfect. ---------- NO
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - dazza - 25-03-19
Did anyone see the channel 4 news debate where they tried to show how the young people want to remain so they assembled a group of 18 to 20 year olds to give their usual biased account and it massively backfired on them.
I think this is the one.
https://www.channel4.com/news/brexit-debate-what-young-people-really-think
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 25-03-19
(25-03-19, 10:18 PM)dazza link Wrote: Did anyone see the channel 4 news debate where they tried to show how the young people want to remain so they assembled a group of 18 to 20 year olds to give their usual biased account and it massively backfired on them.:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin Channel 4 really did not do their normal "research" did they. I can almost hear Jon Snows neck creak as he looks over his shoulder at his careerer with Channel 4 or the creak of Channel 4 bosses necks as they place their heads in their hands.
I think this is the one.
https://www.channel4.com/news/brexit-debate-what-young-people-really-think
Its a remainer unicorn that the now - eligible to vote 18 year old's are going to save them. They are not as STUPID as you think they are. And after the way the EU actually operate being brought into the spotlight they can see it all for themselves. And as for laughing that all the "old leave voting idiots" have since died SHAME on you as they are your Dads - Grand Dads. But remember that they have been replaced by even more in number ( as the old keep out numbering the young ) - "old" and wise people. More so than the leftie - brainwashed few young that the remainers are pinning their hopes on.
The young are as not as stupid as you would like to think.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 25-03-19
![[Image: D2gGwv3WoAAaDB3.jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2gGwv3WoAAaDB3.jpg)
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 25-03-19
Quote: .The people want a no deal. -- See its easy to say, just like when remainers say "the people want a new referendum" .Yes and there's 'at least one hundred, possibly one hundred and fifty' marching demanding No Deal. According to some obscure 'expert' in a helicopter. Mind you, it took him 2 hours to find them