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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 21-03-19
Quote:I don't really give a fuck about people in suits who got nothing in common with me.I take your point. Fair enough.
But BREXIT is relevant to a certain degree to bikes and this forum.
I was in my local, well as local as they get, Yamaha dealer today.
Before the 2016 referendum the on the road price of the MT10 was £10k
I asked what the on the road price was today – it’s £12k
My guess is that if we do end up with No Deal – the pound will weaken again – plus something like a 10% tariff (lets hope no more) and you are looking at £14k for an MT10. 14,000 quid. Try 17,000 quid for the MT10SP.
So from full EU membership to No Deal could see a 40% price rise in new bikes.
So I think everybody needs to get on that petition web site and send a message. It’s at 1.3 million and rising.
Brexit will make everything to do with bikes more expensive – not just one or two quid – seriously more expensive.
We need to kill BREXIT.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 21-03-19
Quote:best thing to do is vote with our feet (ok fingers) im kinda sick of it too lolPlease!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - ogri48 - 21-03-19
lol here we go again...the reason (imho) that we are up shit creek is not because we voted for Brexit. its because that vote was betrayed and sabotaged time and time and time again, ultimately inevitably bringing us to where we are now. Im guessing remainers see this as some sort of victory. enjoy..
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 21-03-19
Yes it is a bike forum and there are almost 25 thousand other threads to post in. There has been a few people who have come into this post to proclaim that this is not the place and this is a bike forum and the thread should be closed down. But the whole reason for this thread to be started in the first place is to stop brexit invading every other thread on this bike forum (like it was doing ) and if this is closed down then there will be no where on this forum that is safe from brexit posts.
Just ignore this brexit thread if you are not interested in it.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 21-03-19
(21-03-19, 10:22 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=24678.msg295020#msg295020 date=1553110895]
Sounds like Corbin walked into the big meeting with may and the independent group were there (Chuka ) and Corbin turned on his heels walked out muttering "he (Chuka) is not a proper political party leader".
Yeah he threw a hissy fit apparently. Any excuse to be awkward :rolleyes . Labour nearly always put getting one over on the government above the national interest.
It seems to me that Tusk came out with the most sensible comments yesterday. He appeared to be saying you either back May's deal next week or leave with no deal on Friday.
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Yes please, lets end it
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 21-03-19
(21-03-19, 01:14 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: It says 600,000 have signed it. How does that top the 17.4 million who voted to leave?.
I suppose that constitutes 'Democracy' in the fantasy land the Remainers seem to inhabit :rolleyes
Ill sign it if it tops 17 million
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 21-03-19
Quote: lol here we go again...the reason (imho) that we are up shit creek is not because we voted for Brexit. its because that vote was betrayed and sabotaged time and time and time again, ultimately inevitably bringing us to where we are now. Im guessing remainers see this as some sort of victory. enjoy..But where we are now is...... leaving. Why aren't you happy? No victory for us.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 21-03-19
(21-03-19, 04:40 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=VNA link=topic=24678.msg295071#msg295071 date=1553180242]Yes it was ignored and you then bumped it yourself because it was 10 post's down.over 100 people had looked at your post by then and not one person was willing to post - not because as you say they did not want to express solidarity (in your head ) but because everyone knows that you only posted it so that you could jump on to anyone who did not fully agree with you, then you could virtue signal your way through another 100 pages. Poor F4celess fell right into your trap and as far as I could see from his post he was coming from an angle of being on your side but your are so lost in your own world view that you read what you wanted or expected to read. 258 views now and no one apart from F4celess has posted into it. (of course I discount your wing man/sidekick who is always guaranteed to back you up )
The only reason I started my Christchurch thread is because I have been shocked by some of the extreme views expressed on this forum. I am talking about racist, fascist and Islamophobic comments and material. Not entirely to my surprise the thread has been pretty much ignored – though I had hoped maybe folks would have at least expressed their solidarity with the Muslim communities in Christchurch and indeed here in the UK. 50 innocent people, including young children, shot dead at their place of worship.
It didn't work - no one will reply, so you are bringing the subject up on this thread just to cause more arguments and discourse.
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I ignored it cos the guys constantly fishing, dangling the bait, so he him and his sidekick can brand anyone with another opinion as rascist/homophobic/nationalist/communist/fascist/lefthanded/cross eyed yah yah yah
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 21-03-19
Why have you suddenly popped up on here? Leave it to the professionals :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Flooky - 21-03-19
Oh well I tried, you lot need to get out more, ta ta.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 21-03-19
Quote:lol here we go again...the reason (imho) that we are up shit creek is not because we voted for Brexit. its because that vote was betrayed and sabotaged time and time and time again, ultimately inevitably bringing us to where we are now. Im guessing remainers see this as some sort of victory. enjoy..
It's about the well monied aristocratical wing of the Tory party. They are there to protect their own interests and they do not give a flying foc about ordinary people.
Victory? No sorry I ain’t interested. This isn’t a battle, it’s not a game, it isn’t about who is right or wrong, it’s about the economy stupid (no not you Ogri – just that famous phrase). Not just the economy, but an economy that works for us – ie ordinary people.
Even the very few economists who believe the UK will prosper economically outside of the EU admit that the wage gap will grow and UK manufacturing will all be but wiped out. We are already haemorrhaging manufacturing jobs as multi-national companies’ loose patience, and those still here are holding back investment on a wait and see basis.
And motorcycle prices, already up 20% since the referendum, could rise another 20% or more.
How many times have I said it? The EU is the biggest single open unrestricted free trade market in the world, it’s right on our doorstep and right now today we are fully paid up members of it. It is well worth the big fee. It also gives us access to dozens of other markets round the globe via EU trade deals. It’s good for our economy, it’s good for business – but in a few days’ time there is the real possibility of the UK facing its biggest financial economic crises since the financial disaster of 2007/8.
So all I am saying is – is this what you really want?
It’s just about to pass 2 million. It’s been growing at 1500 signatures a minute.
Here’s the link - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 21-03-19
Quote:Oh well I tried, you lot need to get out more, ta ta.This will help put an end to it dude
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
Go on - you know you want to
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 21-03-19
Yeah it's passed two million
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 21-03-19
(21-03-19, 11:39 PM)VNA link Wrote: Yeah it's passed two millionUnfortunately Mrs Georgiadou who started it is not here to enjoy it because she is currently in Cyprus
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 21-03-19
I have friends who are Brexiteers. I manage to have intelligent conversations with them. We discuss possible outcomes and consequences. We disagree, but we respect each other's point of view.
Not on here. How about some of you Leavers tell us about what you think is going to happen? We've been trying to analyse the actions of the UK and the EU, what options May has and where they might end up. How about you do the same, and we can debate properly? I don't think even you are united. Some must have a No Deal, and some would settle for May's Deal, as long as we leave. How about discussing those options rather than just banging on about 52%?
So how about dragging this away from the playground and ending the personal insults? I would be happy to have a proper informed debate. On the other hand, you are a load of grumpy old blokes, so bound to be right wing Daily Mail reading xenophobes, but I'm used to it :b
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 22-03-19
Quote:I have friends who are Brexiteers.I can think of three people I know who are BREXITEERS. One is a friend, the other two I get on fine with - no problem. That's it. It really is.I work in a power station with hundreds of others. The impression I get at work, well it's hard to find a BREXITEER. Nobody thinks the EU is super great, but everybody (bar two I know) accept we have to be part of it. Simply on balance it's a pretty good thing.
Oh I have friends who are Brexiteers. Oh 2,138,983 signatures now.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 22-03-19
Quote:Ill sign it if it tops 17 million [img alt=I'll hold you to that
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 22-03-19
Quote: The impression I get at work, well it's hard to find a BrexiteerEssex, my MP is Mark François. I'm surrounded by them :'(
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 22-03-19
(21-03-19, 11:26 PM)Flooky link Wrote: you lot need to get out more
We will. There's going to be the European Parliament elections and a second referendum to turn out for soon :'(
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 22-03-19
Quote:It says 600,000 have signed it. How does that top the 17.4 million who voted to leave?.three million, five hundred and four thousand and 95 signatures.
Wow!
3,504,095
People don't want BREXIT.