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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - unfazed - 15-11-18

(15-11-18, 06:51 PM)VNA link Wrote: All the European nations must think we are all absolutely mad. :lol
Never truer words spoken  :lol :lol


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 15-11-18

Quote:I have come to the conclusion that the UK cannot do an acceptable deal with the EU. The only reason the EU stays in the negotiations must be that they are hoping to gain complete jurisdiction over all the UK's affairs. To me, that will always be unacceptable.
Don’t be silly.  You still haven’t named what these EU laws are that have supposedly been imposed on us.


Did you know the single market accounts for 25% of global GDP.  And it’s right on our doorstep.  45% of our exports are to the EU.  50% of our imports are from the EU. 



So we are now going to pay the EU 35 billion pounds to make it more difficult for us to do the huge amount of business that we do with them.



I am however increasingly confident, though not 100% sure, that should there be a complete democratic meltdown over BREXIT, that parliament will pull together at the last minute to stop a No Deal BREXIT, but that ultimately will depend on a negotiation with the EU to suspend article 50.


But at the end of the day, don’t blame the EU.  Blame the Tories.  Blame David Cameron.  BREXIT was never a good idea, and as it turns out doesn’t appear to be possible.

Quote:Quote from: VNA on Today at 05:51:37 PM<blockquote>All the European nations must think we are all absolutely mad. [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
</blockquote>Never truer words spoken  [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Is this the UK's biggest ever politcal farce?
 


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - nick crisp - 15-11-18


Quote:Quote from: VNA on Today at 05:51:37 PM<blockquote>All the European nations must think we are all absolutely mad. [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
</blockquote>Never truer words spoken  [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]




Sorry fellas, but the views of one chap who wants out of the UK and another who isn't in it in the first place don't carry much weight for me on this one  Wink


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - dazza - 15-11-18

(09-11-18, 09:48 PM)VNA link Wrote: I've kept out of this so far. 
Just to prove a point. 

And I was gonna continue to keep out of it, and anyway the title of the thread pisses me off.

But;


So.......What happened to make you sell your principles up the river....Did you become a politician ?  Big Grin





Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 15-11-18

Quote:So.......What happened to make you sell your principles up the river....Did you become a politician ?  [img alt=Big Grin]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/cheesy.gif[/img]
May I quote Tommy again.
Quote:A thread Just for VNA..... fuck off  [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Youse lot just love it. Wink


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 15-11-18

(15-11-18, 08:39 PM)VNA link Wrote:
Quote:So.......What happened to make you sell your principles up the river....Did you become a politician ?  [img alt=Big Grin]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/cheesy.gif[/img]
May I quote Tommy again.
Quote:A thread Just for VNA..... fuck off  [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Youse lot just love it. Wink

It got 'removed ' from the "What Get's My Goat" thread by popular demand....and turns out to be the most popular thread :lol


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 15-11-18

....wish I hadn't had so many sherbets Tuesday evening. Had a moment of alcohol induced benevolence in this thread. Missing joining in the Euro bickering so much :'(
Foc :wall Foc :wall Foc :wall :lol


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 15-11-18

I like this tweet.  Excellant interview that kinda sums things up;
https://twitter.com/theSNP/status/1063111958579306496



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 15-11-18

(15-11-18, 05:39 PM)agricola link Wrote: Had everyone respected the decision, then things may have turned out differently.

"If the result of this is 48-52, this isn't over" - Nigel Farage.

Hmm...



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 16-11-18

This just about sums it up


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 16-11-18

(16-11-18, 01:07 AM)mtread link Wrote: This just about sums it up

I'd laugh, but that's exactly what Cameron did: Got us into this situation, said he wouldn't resign, then focced up and walked away leaving others to try to sort out the mess he'd left us with... Sad



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - steve 10562cc - 16-11-18


Cameron just joined a long list of those that resigned of those that did the Blair went to war in Iraq, Brown  pensions. Cameron dropped us in the sh*t and resigned. 
Strikes me what we need is a Prime minister with common sense and some bottle and actually listens to the people of this country, but going through the whole shower of every party that presently inhabit parliament none spring to mind.


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 16-11-18

Here's an item from a business column in yesterday's London Evening News, word for word :

'There's still no clarity on whether EU regulators will accept UK made medicines which haven't undergone tests on EU soil. So British firms will have to build testing labs on the continent to carry out replica tests to those done in Britain. AstraZeneca, one of our better prepared multinationals has already built a lab in Sweden to do this (pointless) duplicate work. But have all our other manufacturers? Considering such Brexit measures have cost AZ £40 million it's highly doubtful smaller firms will have done. Such situations are repeated across every industry. '


This isn't Project Fear.  It's not even as if the new jobs will be in the UK. They'll be Swedish.


Welcome to Project Reality.....


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 16-11-18

It say's that there's no clarity on whether EU regulators willl accept them. So they might or they might not.
It then says British firms will have to build testing labs on the continent. Surely they might or they might not?.



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 16-11-18

But this is for transition, starting end of March 2019.....


What is certain, is that a No Deal result means they will.


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 16-11-18

Just been anounced that Amber Rudd is back in the cabinet replacing Esther McVey and the new brexit secretary is Stephen Barclay (no me neither :lol ).


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 16-11-18

(16-11-18, 04:48 PM)mtread link Wrote: Here's an item from a business column in yesterday's London Evening News, word for word :

'There's still no clarity on whether EU regulators will accept UK made medicines which haven't undergone tests on EU soil. So British firms will have to build testing labs on the continent to carry out replica tests to those done in Britain. AstraZeneca, one of our better prepared multinationals has already built a lab in Sweden to do this (pointless) duplicate work. But have all our other manufacturers? Considering such Brexit measures have cost AZ £40 million it's highly doubtful smaller firms will have done. Such situations are repeated across every industry. '


This isn't Project Fear.  It's not even as if the new jobs will be in the UK. They'll be Swedish.


Welcome to Project Reality.....


Equally, EU medicines which have not undergone testing in the uk may or not be accepted here, so the european firms will have to build testing labs in the UK. Such situations are repeated across every industry  :lol



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 16-11-18

Quote:So they might or they might not.
Exactly, that’s the whole point YamFazFan.  May has a deal, if accepted there will be relatively smooth transition.


If we crash out, then everything is up in the air. 
Don’t forget the EU is 25% of global GDP.  And it’s on out doorstep.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4PqRpdzNlA

Watch this – note at 15 seconds – “we can choose to leave with no deal, or we can risk no BREXIT at all, or we can choose to unite and choose the best deal that can be negotiated”


Continued full membership of the EU – the best deal of all – is still an option.


Also, Ms May is well aware of this – continued membership of the EU kills the Scottish Indy Ref 2 stone dead, and though the DUP want to leave, they’ll accept it as their electorate voted to remain and it guarantees the future of NI within the UK but with no Irish border.


They just have to plough through this, for a few weeks or whatever, until we all realise that BREXIT just is not really possible.  That is not possible without serious consequences for the whole UK.


The REMAIN majority in the Tory party must now move to kill the BRIXTEERS.


So says VNA.  But really anything can happen now. :\ :\



Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - ogri48 - 16-11-18


Ah its like a plaster mate, just gotta yank the bugger off and let the wound heal.
you know VNA now means Very Nearly Assimilated, right? Wink Wink Wink :lol


Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - agricola - 16-11-18

one day we'll all look back on this and laugh. Hopefully.