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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 18-03-19
Fazersharp, have you got any good pro Brexit cartoons? I'm keen to see
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 18-03-19
![[Image: D113l-TWkAA4C6A.jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D113l-TWkAA4C6A.jpg)
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 18-03-19
(17-03-19, 09:33 PM)mtread link Wrote: He failed to be elected as an MP seven times
Including when he was beaten by a guy dressed as a dolphin...
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 18-03-19
(17-03-19, 09:42 PM)VNA link Wrote:Quote:we probably were dupedOh yes, for sure.
....and here's my full quote, not just the little bit you've extracted....
(16-03-19, 02:13 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: Oh the 'This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide' pledge.
Time will tell I guess, but yes I agree, we probably were duped by that promise :\
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 18-03-19
Bercow rules out May's 3rd vote :eek
Blimey, he's got balls!
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 18-03-19
Quote:Bercow rules out May's 3rd vote :eek
Blimey, he's got balls!
Foc me. Weird timing. Surely, he should have announced this directly before the 2[sup]nd[/sup] vote or directly after it.
But all the same, timing aside, it makes perfect sense. The convention is that the same motion cannot be debated twice in one parliamentary session.
It also pushes parliament forwards.
But it means he’s also screwed my last prediction. I’m wrong again.
And yeah, there will be knives out for him.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 18-03-19
(18-03-19, 06:48 PM)mtread link Wrote: Blimey, he's got balls!
Sure has. He's got a 'Bollocks To Brexit' sticker on his car hasn't he?. Oh no it's his wife's car isn't it :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 18-03-19
![[Image: D1-Fq1kXQAEyMAJ.jpg:large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1-Fq1kXQAEyMAJ.jpg:large)
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 18-03-19
He was saying today that a motion needs to be substantially altered before it can be brought to Parliament to vote on again.
Was MV2 substantially altered from MV1?. I can't see that it was much different.
It seems to me that the main difference between MV2 and MV3 is that the government were looking much more likely to win it :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 18-03-19
It was Angela Eagle who asked the question and Berk -o decided to look it up and went 400 years back to find the ruling. He has long since waved good buy to his Knighthood and so no he has no balls - more like he has no knighthood to loose
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 19-03-19
Quote:Berk -o decided to look it up and went 400 years back to find the ruling.
And it is indeed the principle on which parliament has operated on since. The last time parliament deviated from this principle was, we are told, 1921.
Therefore, it appears he is correct.
Like it or not, it moves parliament on. Progress.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 19-03-19
Leavers should be pleased. Bill Cash was, he thinks it's leading to a No Deal........ idiot.
Liked the look on Leadsom's face when Bercow gave her a bollocking. She looked like she'd just swallowed a wasp :lol
This government is not in control
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - steve 10562cc - 19-03-19
VNA Your last cartoon is the only one of the s**t cartoons you and your side kick have posted to make me chuckle :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 19-03-19
Quote: Sure has. He's got a 'Bollocks To Brexit' sticker on his car hasn't he?. Oh no it's his wife's car isn't it
Always helps when the ref is on your side
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 19-03-19
If you can't have the same vote more than once then that rules out a second referendum
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 19-03-19
So if Berk-o has only just realised after checking, then the 2nd (MV2) result should be null and void and the 1st vote figure of a 230 defeat should still stand. And not the 2nd vote figure of a margin of 149 votes. So the EU needs to respond and renegotiate on the basis of a massive 230 no to their deal and not what they have perceived as a step towards their deal - a no of 149 votes.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 19-03-19
(19-03-19, 12:24 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: If you can't have the same vote more than once then that rules out a second referendum
You mean apart from the fact that the Tories *have* already had a second vote?
But if the question is not "Leave/ Remain", but "Leave with May's Deal / No Deal / Remain", the question is (as the Speaker said) "substantially different" because now people can see exactly what they are voting for, rather than vague promises...
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 19-03-19
(19-03-19, 01:07 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: But if the question is not "Leave/ Remain", but "Leave with May's Deal / No Deal / Remain", the question is (as the Speaker said) "substantially different"
So you have two voting options for the Leave voters to choose from, but just one for Remain, thus splitting the Leave vote in two and guaranteeing a Remain win?.
Yes you'd love that wouldn't you :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - fazersharp - 19-03-19
(19-03-19, 01:18 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=24678.msg294947#msg294947 date=1552997235]
But if the question is not "Leave/ Remain", but "Leave with May's Deal / No Deal / Remain", the question is (as the Speaker said) "substantially different"
So you have two voting options for the Leave voters to choose from, but just one for Remain, thus splitting the Leave vote in two and guaranteeing a Remain win?.
Yes you'd love that wouldn't you :lol
[/quote]Well in that case you vote and then the highest two go through to the next round.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 19-03-19
You can't have a referendum with 3 options. It has to be a binary question. Parliament will get to choose the question, as they did last time. Parliament has already ruled out No Deal,so it'll be Leaving under May's Deal/Remain. Easy win