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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - steve 10562cc - 03-03-19 Would someone like to explain why the Remainers and the Brexiteers have tried to keep the Lisbon Treaty very quiet, this seems to me to be a stitch up by members of parliament on both sides of the argument. Napoleon and Hitler's dreams have been fulfilled by the EU in the 21st century without a shot being fired in the name of freedom from a dictatorship. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 03-03-19 :eek :eek :eek So THAT'S why The EU suggested an Article 50 extension up until 2021?. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 03-03-19 Where does that Lisbon Treaty copy and paste come from? Looks like an arch Brexiteer's interpretation, rather than fact. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-03-19 Quote:[color=rgb(102, 102, 102)]WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT COMES INTO FORCE 2020, ITS WORSE THAN THE[/color] SO CALLED DEAL, IF 99% OF THE BRITISH THINK TERESA MAYS DEAL IS BAD, JUST LOOK AT THE LISBON TREATY. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, LEAVERS AND REMAIN[color=rgb(102, 102, 102)]Looks like more made up facebook pish. [/color] Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - steve 10562cc - 03-03-19 Who knows but it's food for thought from both side if it's anything like the truth Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-03-19 Steve, it's literally made up bollocks. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 03-03-19 (03-03-19, 04:06 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: Who knows but it's food for thought from both side if it's anything like the truthIt's fiction. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-03-19 Thank foc fae that :lol Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - steve 10562cc - 03-03-19 About like the rest of the b*ll*cks spoken from both sides then. Non of the so called experts/MPs know what the foc is going to happen one way or the other, but I do know it wont be them is badly affected It will be the ordinary hard working people of no matter which way you voted that will bear the brunt of the fall out. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - johnakay - 03-03-19 what ever may happen we're gonna be half in and out the way things are going. as for the lisbon treaty nothing is mention the above.just google it. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 03-03-19 (03-03-19, 09:52 PM)johnakay link Wrote: what ever may happen we're gonna be half in and out the way things are going. It's a wind up!. Someone's fabricated that nonsense to mess people about :rolleyes Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-03-19 Quote:About like the rest of the b*ll*cks spoken from both sides then. Non of the so called experts/MPs know what the foc is going to happen one way or the other, but I do know it wont be them is badly affectedWe do know to a degree. Economically the vast majority of economists are in agreement, whatever we do in terms of leaving the EU will have an economic impact on the UK, that is a negative impact. There is a small minority of economists we believe that the harder the BREXIT the better for the UK economy. They argue, for example, a NO DEAL BREXIT will give the city of London – financial services – a substantial boost. However most of them agree that it will have a strong negative impact on manufacturing in the UK, and overall a widening of inequality. The UK will become, for ordinary people, a low wage hire and fire economy. As I’ve said all along this is about the Tory party, and a battle between the modern pro-business faction verses the aristocracy and super rich side of the party – the ERG. I think the most likely outcome, right now, is a very slightly amended May deal. Which is really just kicking the can down the road. So far parliament has failed to decisively rule out no deal, a Norway deal (the best BREXIT option) seems to be ruled out as is a second referendum. I can't see a majority forming for any of these. So, my money is on May’s deal. But my heart is in, and this is probably the second most likely outcome (I think) if nothing can get a majority, then May may be forced to cancel article 50. The problem with that is the Tory party may go into meltdown, it could lead to a general election, which will, possibly be the most chaotic general election in modern UK history. So even if article 50 is cancelled, which I would like to see, well the reality is BREXIT probably is still not going to go away. But yeah I totally agree with you Steve, in that this will have an impact on us ordinary punters, whereas people like Jacob Rees Mogg, well with 100 million quid worth of assets to his name……. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 03-03-19 ![]() Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 03-03-19 . Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 04-03-19 Quote: I think the most likely outcome, right now, is a very slightly amended May deal.Sadly, I think you are right but the numbers in Parliament will be very close. The deal that neither side wants but gets May off the hook and saves the Tory party splitting. Disgraceful to see some Labour MPs considering voting for the deal by being bribed by May's money for poor areas. The PM who promised 2 years ago to help 'just about managing' families, and delivered nothing. Let's not also forget that if her deal does pass and we leave on the 29th, that is the start of 2+ years of negotiations to agree permanent trade and other deals with the EU where we are likely to end up being rule takers from the EU, without a vote. We could still be heading for an EFTA /Single Market /Freedom of movement type deal. Nothing is better than the deal we already have. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 04-03-19 Yup we could end up with a deal that not long ago was the biggest ever defeat in pariamentary history. And yeah, two years plus negotiations. And going by how long it's taken us to try and get a withdrawl agreement - the easy bit - well 2 years ++++++++ is more like it. Then there is whether the UK can actually hold together. This coud lead to Scotland and Northen Ireland leaving the UK. The end of the UK. Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Grahamm - 04-03-19 A little about "Taking Back Control" and all those laws that the EU "forced" on to us... https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/rationalist-destroys-leavers-with-list-of-all-eu-laws-that-have-been-forced-on-us-against-our-will/22/01/ Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - Val - 04-03-19 Brexit: The eyes have it. https://twitter.com/wolfi665/status/1102309572277166081 I am literally rolling on the floor laughing ere :lol :lol :lol Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 05-03-19 Blimey you're easily amused :rolleyes Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 05-03-19 Was pretty funny. |