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Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
Simply because it's the National Anthem. The words are immaterial.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 01:01 AM)mtread link Wrote: Simply because it's the National Anthem. The words are immaterial.
I'd never thought of the words as being immaterial. When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.
Corbyn didn't used to sing it though did he?. Even up until early on in his leadership he wasn't singing it at public events I don't think.
I wonder what changed since then :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
Well as a very large proportion of the population don't believe in God, that's going to be difficult. Do you think the Germans literary meant 'Deutschland uber alles' when they sang it? O hang on a minute.... :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
I believe in god and just assumed all the other people singing it did too.
I still can't find an explanation as to why Jeremy Corbin sings The National Anthem now, but didn't previously :rolleyes
Anyone?.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
Personally, I couldn't care less. Anyway, what's that got to do with Brexit? :rolleyes
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 01:08 PM)mtread link Wrote: Personally, I couldn't care less.
No I expect you don't :rolleyes lol. I do though. I'll just have to do my own research
.In his first post accompanying the thread title, the OP says it's for other politics as well.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
I still don't care.....
Theresa doesn't know the right moves to 'Dancing Queen', but I don't care about that either :z
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 03:48 PM)mtread link Wrote: Theresa doesn't know the right moves to 'Dancing Queen'
I'm in agreement with you there. 100%. It's cringe inducing isn't it :o . Do they deliberately make an arse of it, sort of ironic like, or are they really actually trying?. I think the sad truth is that it's most likely the latter :'(
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 13-11-18
Quote:But if Jeremy Corbyn is a republican why would he join in with singing the national anthem?.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed but Mr Corbyn is the leader of the opposition and therefore your next Prime Minister in waiting.
Quote:When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.
For focs sake. :eek :eek :eek
Never sung it, never will sing it.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 06:32 PM)VNA link Wrote::lolQuote:When I sing God Save The Queen I actually mean it.
For focs sake. :eek :eek :eek
....and I'm not refering to The Sex Pistols version either
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - tommyardin - 13-11-18
Whats all the fuss about I heard tonight on the telly that Theresa has it sorted :rollin :rollin :rollin Is there a widow left open I thought I felt a draft?
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 10:31 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: I still can't find an explanation as to why Jeremy Corbin sings The National Anthem now, but didn't previously :rolleyes
(13-11-18, 02:46 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: I'll just have to do my own research
The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 13-11-18
Quote:The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.
I don’t know whether he sang that abominable awful anthem in the past or not, but as I have already pointed out, he is the leader of the opposition, that means he may become the Prime Minister one day. He has to follow protocol. Simple.
Meanwhile May has stuck a deal with Juncker. No hard boder in Ireland as we will remain in the customs union. Now we have to see if the government can agree on it and put it to the parliament. This is where the real fun starts.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
So...... if we agree terms with the EU that we stay in the Customs Union and most of the Single Market without a backstop (ie without an end date)........... then we might as well........... stay in the EU
At least I think that's what Arron Banks said.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
(13-11-18, 09:29 PM)VNA link Wrote:HAS to?. Surely he has a choice?. The impression I get is that he was basically presurised into singing it.Quote:The consensus of opinion is that the reason he never used to sing it was because he's a commited republican and that the explanation as to why he does sing it now is because he came under pressure from his own MP's and Cabinet collegues to do so. Particularly after the 75th anniversary of The Battle Of Britain service.
I don’t know whether he sang that abominable awful anthem in the past or not, but as I have already pointed out, he is the leader of the opposition, that means he may become the Prime Minister one day. He has to follow protocol. Simple.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - VNA - 13-11-18
Protocol - the official procedure or system of rules governing affairs of state or diplomatic occasions.
At offical functions when Mr Corbyn becomes Prime Minister he will be representing the country - not himself.
For example, whilst in the past he has always worn a white poppy on rememberance day, protocol dictates he must now wear a British Legion red poppy. Once he retires as Prime Minister or as Leader of the Opposition I think you will find he will once again wear a white poppy, unless, that is, performing offical state functions as a former Prime Minister.
The country has to come before the individual when holding such high office. Like I say simple.
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - nick crisp - 13-11-18
Sorry VNA, I think he already promised himself to Diane Abbott :lol
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
Yes simple if you already know that that's the one of the rules of holding such a high office. I didn't, as indicated by my asking the question several times in previous posts.
When I was googling it earlier none of the results said that he had to conform, Ie sing The National Anthem.
Ta you've answered my question :thumbup
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - mtread - 13-11-18
I still don't care. At the end of the day, whether he sings it or not, what dances Theresa can or cannot do, is unimportant. It's just froth, only worthy of front page news for the tabloids.
In other news May has pulled off a fantastic result.
She's turned the country from a 2 way split - Leavers vs Remainers.......
Into a 3 way split - Hard Brexit vs Soft Brexit vs No Brexit
Unbelievable! :'(
Re: Just for VNA a brexit thread - YamFazFan - 13-11-18
I'm reluctant to say this and it's not with any great enthusiasm at all, but I'm prepared to say I've probably been won over by the arguments.
On the balance of things, as they stand at the moment, I think it would be best to stay in :eek