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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - ChristoT - 12-04-13
(12-04-13, 10:49 AM)caretaker link Wrote: good grief!! is this still going on!! go out there, fire the bike up, enjoy the ride and chill. i was affected by thatchers policies but it was years ago. life's too short.
^^ Best post in this miserable thread.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Razgruff - 12-04-13
There was an interesting interview with ex Welsh Miners on Telly about 5 years after the pits were closed.
When asked about the retaining they got, when it was finally offered to them.
One miner replied
"yea the retaining was fantastic, I went from being an unemployed miner to an unemployed HGV driver"
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Pat - 12-04-13
(11-04-13, 10:07 PM)Razgruff link Wrote: Peterjca just buy the Judy Garland version from Amazon or Itunes and it will be counted in the charts
♬ iTunes:
http://bit.ly/dingdongitunes
♬ Amazon:
http://bit.ly/dingdongamazon
play
http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Track/4-/12969485/0/Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead/ListingDetails.html?aid=12968913&searchstring=judy+garland+ding&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search
Personally even though as someone who left school within weeks of her being elected & not managing to get a 'real' job for 5 years I was one of the 'affected' & also having spent a large part of my teens & early 20s as an active member of the LPYS & fringe Militant associate (unlike I suspect most of the armchair socialists celebrating her death) I don't really give a toss one way or another about her demise, she was 87 & people that age die all the time, it's sad for the families, but it's the way of nature, I left the hate & animosity behind years ago & like the rest of the world moved on.
What does get me though is this campaign. We have a group of people who are allegedly against all she stood for & symbolised & how are they going to show that? Yes, they are going to indulge in a frenzy of pointless consumerism & throw their money into the overflowing coffers of some of the most avaricious capiltalists & tax-dodgers on the planet!
Congratulations you morons, you've succeeded in giving her in death the one thing she could never achieve in life, the last laugh! :groan
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Streetbudgie - 12-04-13
(12-04-13, 10:45 AM)richfzs link Wrote: [quote author=Streetbudgie link=topic=7157.msg69123#msg69123 date=1365758914]
And that glib comment has what to do with Thatcher and her destruction of UK industry?
If you have to ask that, I, and several others commenting here, really are wasting our time.
Christo, fair point mate!
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Explain it to me as it is sounds like the usual Tory Boy spout of 'times are changing' used to justify the deconstruction of an economy
I'm not bitter about what Thatcher did, I was then and always will be angry about it. However my pleasure was watching the evil women ousted from Number 10 with her head down in tears - that really made me chuckle.
If you bothered to read my posts at all instead of ganging up like Tory Boot Boys do to attack the Socialist (which I'm not), you would read that what has annoyed me about recent events is the disgusting cost of a state funeral for this person to be bourne in part by the taxpayer.
I couldn't give a fuck about Thatcher up to this point, I couldn't care less if she's dead or alive as I knew she was finished although her shocking and uncaring legacy lives on - NHS look out.
I knew when the day came there would be much fuss and probably a few riots and I don't care about them either, good luck to people who want to kick off in the name of Thatcher - she liked a good riot otherwise her wicked Poll Tax wouldn't have made it out of the cabinet office.
Oh and I ride my bike every day - to work, I have no choice as I can't afford to drive to work and I can't afford Public Transport.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Razgruff - 12-04-13
If spending 69p makes a point that gets more publicity world wide, that not the whole country wish to sanctify the old witch, than Glenda Jacksons speech in the house
Then I am quite happy to spend it.
Better that, than to go on the streets and create havoc and have the inevitable violence that follows as the rent a mob joins in.
Protesting in the streets does nothing, the Political Parties are all the same now which ever way you look.
If something as little as 69p draws attention to the Tax payers money being spend on the recall of Parliment the cost of the funeral and everything else at a time when private companies are making fortunes on telling disabled people they are fit for work when later on appeal they are declared not fit or dead.
When companies openly boast about savings to be made on payroll costs by having people to work for nothing on the goverment private company taking profits run so called back to work schemes. that get less people back in work than doing nothing
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Then I am quite happy to spend that 69p
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/duke-dumont-trailed-by-pink-and-ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead-in-race-to-number-1-2159/
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - chaz - 12-04-13
Will the BBC play ding dong or will it join the list of hundreds of other song they've banned at one time or another from George Formby with his little stick of Blackpool rock to God Save the Queen - The Sex Pistols?
.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - ChristoT - 12-04-13
(12-04-13, 03:13 PM)chaz link Wrote: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC
Interesting link that. I was surprised by some of the entries.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Chillum - 12-04-13
From the wiki page..
"Others were banned many years after having been first aired, as was the case of The Cure's 1979 single "Killing an Arab", which was banned from BBC airplay as the first Gulf War began"
This is actually quite funny, because I used to be into the Cure and when I visited Saudi I discovered the 'tape' shops - basically knocked off music from Abba to ZZ Top. The tapes they copied onto were usually longer than the original albums so they used to stuff extra songs on there.
Consider my surprise when I heard Killing an Arab for the first time, in Saudi Arabia, sold to me by Arabs. Oh, and the lyrics they used to print with the songs were often hilariously wrong, but that one they got spot on - go figure.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - VNA - 12-04-13
Quote:Being an anarchist, and all in favour of free speech,.........................
As a Catholic, I believe there is retribution in the next life. What ever the mistakes she made whilst alive, she's gone now. Time to move on, and let her go.
Haven't looked at this thread for days, well since I last posted. 8 pages - gosh.
I'm not an anarchist but I do know quite a few folks who are. I have to say I've never come across a Catholic Anarchist. How the heck does that work?
I have to say I was pretty sickened by the BBC's inital coverage of her death, just as I was a few years back when that other nasty bastard Reagan died. I'm also disgusted that this woman is getting a massive funeral, this umm, ceremonial funeral. I still haven't seen any explanation of why Thatcher is getting such a lavish funeral and being treated as some sort of universal nation treasure. Why is she not having a quiet funeral as is the norm for ex PM's?
But you gotta laugh when Ding Dong The Witch is Dead hits No.1 It's only a few buttons in the scheme of things and despite all the propaganda being spouted by the powers that be and the BBC, well there it is, you can't deny how the nation really feels.
Her death makes no difference, she won, she destroyed our Unions and our communities, and in the longer term our economy, of which Cameron and his millionaires have no intention of sorting out, only cutting their costs and ripping as much cash out of us as they can while they can. Maggie won, we live with her legacy, but who can be surprised by the reaction when the government of the day goes into overdrive to praise and celebrate her life that there is, however it is expressed, a substantial and negative reaction from people across the UK.
My only hope is in the longer term is that people engage their brains, and link together the governments of the last few decades, as after all many would say that Tony Blair was Maggie's greatest achievement, these governments that destroyed our country's post war dream of a fair and civil society for all.
Meanwhile as a Scot, how does not ever want another Tory government imposed on us (Maggie's other great achievement, though one she would probably deny - The Scottish Parliament), I can only congratulate David Cameron and his true blue buddies in their fantastic campaigning effort for Scottish Independence over the last week. Thanks Dave!
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - DryRob - 13-04-13
...and i thought i could talk after a drink.
Can't help but notice the supporters seem to be saying "it made the country stronger, get over it", while the opponents shout, "at what cost?" but each argument falls on deaf ears. Everyone is so entrenched that there will never be consensus.
Blaming following governments is pointless, the route is set and "Thatchetism" will run it's course until people have had enough of standing on each other for personal gain.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - DryRob - 13-04-13
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Chillum - 13-04-13
(13-04-13, 02:38 AM)DryRob link Wrote: Blaming following governments is pointless, the route is set and "Thatchetism" will run it's course until people have had enough of standing on each other for personal gain.
When you've been stepped on for personal gain (or even just spite) so much by just about everybody you've ever known or met, there comes a time when you have to accept it as part of human nature and deal with it.
Not everybody's nature, granted, but then hippies aren't the ones in power making the rules.
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Razgruff - 13-04-13
I'm really struggling with this just accept it and move on argument.
Where would women be if they just accepted that they get paid lees for doing the same job as men?
Where would women be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the common man be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the Tolpuddle Martyrs be if they just accept their lot?
Where would we be if the Parlimentarians just accepted that the King had the devine right to rule how he pleased?
Were would we be if the Barons just accepted their lot and we didn't have Magna Charter?
Where would we be if King Alfred accepted defeat and didn't come out of the marshes and introduce common Law?
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - richfzs - 13-04-13
What exactly is "ding dong the witch is dead" fighting against?
Thatcherism happened, like it or not. Look to the future, and what you'd like to change, instead of looking backwards with so much bitterness!
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Grahamm - 13-04-13
Meanwhile...
After Margaret Thatcher's funeral, a short documentary on the writing of Tony Blair's eulogy will be available on BBC iPlayer.
Just search for the Blair/ Witch project...
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - evesdad - 13-04-13
(13-04-13, 09:56 AM)Razgruff link Wrote: I'm really struggling with this just accept it and move on argument.
Where would women be if they just accepted that they get paid lees for doing the same job as men?
Where would women be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the common man be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the Tolpuddle Martyrs be if they just accept their lot?
Where would we be if the Parlimentarians just accepted that the King had the devine right to rule how he pleased?
Were would we be if the Barons just accepted their lot and we didn't have Magna Charter?
Where would we be if King Alfred accepted defeat and didn't come out of the marshes and introduce common Law?
As far as the tories are concerned probably in our rightful places
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - caretaker - 13-04-13
i believe that children are our future....
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Chillum - 13-04-13
(13-04-13, 12:35 PM)caretaker link Wrote: i believe that children are our future....
I understand the sentiment, but I've noticed that this seems to be used a lot by people who then don't bother doing anything themselves because the children will sort it out. Not saying you are, just saying I've noticed it in others who say the same thing.
Quote:I'm really struggling with this just accept it and move on argument.
You say this as if moving on from stuff that upsets you is a bad thing.
Dealing with reality and getting on with your life without rancour to towards the things of the past is part of a good attitude in my opinion, because dwelling on stuff you can't change just makes you bitter and angry and upset and unhappy.
I'm not suggesting that if there is something in your life you don't like then just accept it and don't deal with it, quite the opposite.
In the words of Brian Blessed regarding someone on the dole for thirty years - "pull your finger out and get off your arse you lazy bastard"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01ry872/Have_I_Got_News_for_You_Series_45_Episode_2/
about 8m45s in
Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - Razgruff - 13-04-13
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Re: Ding dong the witch is dead - caretaker - 13-04-13
wasnt meant to be taken seriously. it's a line from whitney houstons song. just trying to brighten up the proceedings
