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PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
OK so I got the thing booked in for mot today. Riding the the test centre a big rattle made itself present and I have a lot of oil being blown down the exhaust. Also a bit of white stuff in the baffle?
Gonna see if they will mot it any way now I am here. Got a big can off oil to top up for ride back.
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
Or decideas to get it recovered?
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - Fazerider - 17-01-17
That doesn't sound good: dropped valve maybe?
How many miles has the engine done?
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
About 53k recorded... assuming original engine?
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - Bretty - 17-01-17
Well it'll probably fail the MOT on emissions.
is it a bike garage, can they diagnose the problem? It sounds fairly catastrophic to me and I would advise against riding it home.
it sounds like a damaged piston / ring, conrod, head or valve.
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
It passed! No advisory except the bloody oil leak ?
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - slappy - 17-01-17
But where is the oil coming from? What is the "white stuff" in the baffle? I presume you rode it home, what is the engine running like?
If it was my bike I would be a bit worried.
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
It's not straightforward as I live 100 miles from the test station. On topping oil up the bike started revving hard. So assuming it is running on the engine oil ? Waiting for recovery. Wondering if easiest thing to do would be looking out for a second hand engine. Got some pics exhaust and leaks. Will try up load
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
There's engine rattle and obvious oil consumption but no other obvious performance decrease (woolly due to carbsome needing done, but it was like that before). Doesn't make sense to ride it though in case further damage caused.
I can't upload pics on my phone. But will when I get back to pc
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - darrsi - 17-01-17
Silly question, but why are you 100 miles away from an MOT station?
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
I live in the Highlands our local mot does bikes but the guy who does bikes works away too. So it's the next nearest as a lot of places only do cars.
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - tommyardin - 17-01-17
(17-01-17, 04:50 PM)rw711 link Wrote: There's engine rattle and obvious oil consumption but no other obvious performance decrease (woolly due to carbsome needing done, but it was like that before). Doesn't make sense to ride it though in case further damage caused.
I can't upload pics on my phone. But will when I get back to pc
Not wanting to be an Ogre, but the word Focced comes to mind.
rw says its white in the exhaust, if its dry white it may point to a valve head or seat, it could possibly be an exhaust valve and the weak fuel mixture is being ignited in the exhaust causing the whiteness. Spark plugs electrode go white if the mixture is really weak.
If its wet and scummy it could be head gasket water/oil mix. Oil and water frothing up, although this is usually found in the radiator cap.
What-ever it is riding it seems a bad idea.
Looking forward to seeing rw's pictures.
Good luck rw :thumbup .[size=1em] I hope it is neither of the above and it turns out to be an easy fix [/size]
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 17-01-17
Pics on Facebook page. Will put on here later
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - tommyardin - 17-01-17
(17-01-17, 06:43 PM)rw711 link Wrote: Pics on Facebook page. Will put on here later
Frothy oil, not good, water in the engine, head Gasket or cracked block/water jacket somewhere allowing water into the engine.
Kerching Kerching £££££££.
Compression stroke pressurising the cooling system and induction stroke drawing water into the combustion chamber and exiting it out the exhaust.
Engine full of water/oil foam.
I reckon if you feel the bike is worth it (Condition) a lump from a crashed donner bike might be the way to go ,as you will have all the cases and stuff if any are damaged on the donner lump.
Good luck rw keep us informed.
I hope I am totally wrong but things are pointing that way I'm afraid.
tommy
Re: Big oil leak. Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 18-01-17
(17-01-17, 06:43 PM)rw711 link Wrote: Pics on Facebook page. Will put on here later
Pics added....
Here's hoping that it is nothing more serious than the head gasket, it is indeed wet white gunk as opposed to dry : the bike would have passed the MOT without advisories if it hadnt been for the oil leak :rolleyes - Everything is pointing to that though I need to check coolant level/condition still as it was well dark and me well pissed off by time we got back here!
The guy who recovered it knew about bikes, had a few of his own and he was reckoning that most of the other symptoms could be explained by it:
The rattling through loss of oil viscosity, oil pressure light coming on even though oil still in
Re: PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - mtread - 18-01-17
Noticed from your earlier posts looks like you've only recently bought the Fazer. Any comeback on the seller?
Re: PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - rw711 - 18-01-17
(18-01-17, 01:03 AM)mtread link Wrote: Noticed from your earlier posts looks like you've only recently bought the Fazer. Any comeback on the seller?Not really, it was very cheap!! - ran and sounded ok , there was a coolant leak at time which was negotiated - I suppose if this coolant leak had been there a long time it could have contributed to the head gasket going but pretty tenuous. The engine otherwise seemed good and sounded fine no rattles or odd noises/behaviour at the time- and sold as seen of course.
Even if I have to get a new head or even engine it will still have been a bargain, but just could do without it as had a good look over the bike and sorted the problem areas, as MOT proved - if it hadnt of been for the oil leaking from the exhaust it would have got a clear pass no advisories. It had only done 300 miles since last MOT (done may - 2015 exp may 2016) - IN fact mileage has been low right through mot history - as far as can be traced back.
Re: PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - Jules-C - 18-01-17
Not good news. Pulling the plugs out will probably show which cylinder affected but have to get head off to see what the real problem is whether it just needs a new head gasket but my guess from the amount of stuff coming through the exhaust is it's a bit more serious than that. My guess would be a dropped valve and subsequent damage to piston cylinder and head.
Real shame after you just getting to know the bike
Re: PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - celticdog - 18-01-17
See if you can get hold of a compression tester and check each cylinder in turn fella. With a bit of luck it's just worn piston rings
Re: PICs now Added - Oil coming through exhaust. - Dave48 - 18-01-17
My guess is a crack in the cylinder head/blown head gasket. The oil light is a level indicator not pressure so loss of oil would bring the light on. What colour is the coolant?