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benifits not. - taylor - 15-12-15
just a moan, I have been self employed all my life. don't earn a great deal but get by. allways paid my taxes and stamp, I gotta have an operation in jan so thought I would see if they would give me anything for the 3 months I am off, the answer was no I have earned enough to last me the year. :lol I haven't tried to claim anything for twenty years,. (GREAT BRITAIN)
Re: benifits not. - BBROWN1664 - 15-12-15
I would be fecced if they base your eligibility on past earnings. They seem to forget you have outgoings too. In my case I am paying a large chunk of my son's living expenses at uni as apparently I earn too much to allow him to get the full works grant. They don't appreciate that if I lived up north I would be rolling get in it but living down south the mortgage is considerably higher.
Re: benifits not. - noggythenog - 15-12-15
It would be more worrying if you werent moaning Taylor........tis a good sign for sure......my boss says that....whenever we go quiet and stop moaning he is thinking what are those foccers up to
Keep up the moans & all the best for the op.
Re: benifits not. - dazza - 15-12-15
Have you got any life insurance or critical illness cover running along side your mortgage ?
Re: benifits not. - Grayo - 15-12-15
Have you tried telling them you're a Syrian Refugee and you're only here to milk the system for whatever you can get out of it ?
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Re: benifits not. - Frosties - 15-12-15
You sure you're not entitled to statuary sick pay - you pay NI after all, self employed or not.
Just had a quick look -
https://www.gov.uk/employment-support-allowance/eligibility
Re: benifits not. - celticdog - 16-12-15
In a rich country (UK- G7 member) why are people poor even though they work? :'(
Why if you don't ever work, the state will pay for your accommodation including nursing home and funeral yet if you do work you must pay this yourself and they'll sell your property to fund this?
It's all foccin wrong!
Re: benifits not. - Dead Eye - 16-12-15
You're not British if you don't complain bitterly about at least one thing each and every day, no matter how serious or utterly trivial
Re: benifits not. - locksmith - 16-12-15
Our trouble is we tend not to moan at the people who matter. We just come on here and let it out :grumble
Re: benifits not. - esetest - 16-12-15
Talk to Macmillan cancer support , they can give you a grant and help with claiming ESA ,even if your self employed , don't let the bastards grind you down mate .
Re: benifits not. - nick crisp - 16-12-15
(16-12-15, 08:59 AM)celticdog link Wrote: In a rich country (UK- G7 member) why are people poor even though they work? :'(
Why if you don't ever work, the state will pay for your accommodation including nursing home and funeral yet if you do work you must pay this yourself and they'll sell your property to fund this?
It's all foccin wrong!
This is apparently affected by the 'post code lottery'. In Oxfordshire, we didn't have to pay for my dad's nursing home care.
Re: benifits not. - unfazed - 16-12-15
(16-12-15, 01:23 PM)locksmith link Wrote: Our trouble is we tend not to moan at the people who matter. We just come on here and let it out :grumble
But the advantage of coming on here and letting it out is that someone may be able to help
Re: benifits not. - Gnasher - 16-12-15
(15-12-15, 09:11 PM)taylor link Wrote: just a moan, I have been self employed all my life. don't earn a great deal but get by. allways paid my taxes and stamp, I gotta have an operation in jan so thought I would see if they would give me anything for the 3 months I am off, the answer was no I have earned enough to last me the year. :lol I haven't tried to claim anything for twenty years,. (GREAT BRITAIN)
Working for yourself is just that, it gives you certain freedom's i.e. you can claim your VAT back, claim for heat/light, fuel, tools, clothing, phone/internet, repairs and all manner of other things you even get cheaper deals on cars/bikes etc if they have a work application. Part of that freedom is you have to protect yourself for a rainy day/sick/holiday pay etc that's why you get them.
Why should you get any benefits?
Someone who's PAYE and working for a company doesn't get the above freedom's! They may or may not get sick pay depending on their contract and length of service, many are on zero hours or temporary employed and get nothing.
As I said why should being self employed give you anything extra via the social system?
It would seem to me you've just enjoyed the good times now you want the rest of us to pay for your inability to plan and make provision?!
Re: benifits not. - taylor - 16-12-15
cheers all thanks, there are usefull bits in there of all of you. I have a meeting set up with dhss, they say now there is something I can have,( we shall see.) gnasher I don't want anything (more), I just want something even if it just pays for my champagne, I shall then get my accountant to claim it back. signed r branson. :rollin
Re: benifits not. - Gnasher - 16-12-15
(16-12-15, 07:53 PM)taylor link Wrote: I just want something even if it just pays for my champagne,
More like something for nothing
(16-12-15, 07:53 PM)taylor link Wrote: [size=1em]I shall then get my accountant to claim it back. signed r branson. :rollin [/size]
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Re: benifits not. - fazersharp - 16-12-15
(16-12-15, 03:08 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: you can claim your VAT back, claim for heat/light, fuel, tools, clothing, phone/internet, repairs and all mannerIf you are claiming back VAT - as you put it (even though you don't claim it back ) because that also means that you have to charge VAT on your goods and services and then pay that VAT that you have collected to the inland revenue, which means that you just end up being an unpaid tax collector. Also you can only claim the vat on things needed to run your business.
Same gos for light, heat, fuel - only what what is used for the business, so if you use a room in your house for an office and your house has 10 rooms then you can only claim 1/10th of those running costs, further more if that room is also used for something else than the amount to be claimed also has to be reduced by the non business use amount.
Same for a car if you also use it as the family car then you can only "claim for the business use part.
And this from the gov website "You can’t claim for everyday clothing (even if you wear it for work)."
Re: benifits not. - Gnasher - 16-12-15
Correct that's why I said
(16-12-15, 03:08 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: if they have a work application.
If you've got a good accountant he/she will make a proportion of just about everything you use or buy VAT deductible.
Re: benifits not. - taylor - 16-12-15
if I don't get anything why should I pay in,?, a lot of people my self included are forced into self employment, no holiday pay,,, 0 contract hours, not enough to pay a pension, I don't claim vat back I lay paving for a living fucking hard work, paye lol I should be so lucky, if it rains I don't work, try that in wales lol. try clameing a tenth of fuck all. :lol
Re: benifits not. - fazersharp - 16-12-15
(16-12-15, 09:46 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Correct that's why I said
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if they have a work application.
If you've got a good accountant he/she will make a proportion of just about everything you use or buy VAT deductible.
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If you've got a good bent accountant he/she will make a proportion of just about everything you use or buy VAT deductible.
Re: benifits not. - Gnasher - 16-12-15
Oh my god another self employed pleading poverty :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Stop stop stop I just can't take any more.................................
I know loads of self employed people they claim VAT back on as much as they can and I'm sure they've not all got "bent" accountants!!!
This is just getting funnier by the minute
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