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only running engine on centre stand, - taylor - 23-04-14
my mechanic neighbour has told me never run the bike on the side stand if the bike aint been used for a while, the reason he his saying this is because the oil will all be on one side of the engine, it makes sense I suppose but is it true.?
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - DekF - 23-04-14
And if it's on the centre stand it'll all be at the bottom
Seriously, where does all this shite come from
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - carlos - 23-04-14
I had a gs550 engines clucth stick together after the engine was laying on it side for about a week only found out after we got it back in and bumped it up the road.
cant see a side stand leans it that far though
how come some bikes don't have side stands from new??
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - robby boy - 23-04-14
the reason he his saying this is because the oil will all be on one side of the engine,
And when you lean it over to go round a corner where is the oil.
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - mark - 23-04-14
If that was the case surely ALL bikes would come with a center stand
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - carlos - 23-04-14
what sort of mechanic is he?
and what does he mean by a 'while' 6 days? or 6 weeks? or 6 million years
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Simon.Pieman - 23-04-14
He's talking tripe, don't listen to anything he says.
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - fazersharp - 23-04-14
I always sit on mine when I start it, I sort of dont feel in control otherwise, I pop it back on the side and put me lid on -- off the bike, its sort of like starting your car by leaning in through an open window from out side.
Would you not cause far more damage by reving hard straight away when cold
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - chaz - 23-04-14
If mine has been stood for more than a day, I sit on it put it in first gear, rock it and free the clutch off, put it in neutral, holding clutch in I start the engine and then engage 1st gear, usualy without a clunk. Starting it on the sidestand won't make any difference to where the oil is?
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Dave48 - 23-04-14
There is a device in the engine called an OIL PUMP!! :rolleyes
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - dazza - 23-04-14
Do you think he may of meant don't start it if it's upside down :rolleyes
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Deefer666 - 24-04-14
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this thread made me laugh. If this guy is a mechanic then please take his tools away, He's too dumb to be trusted with them. :rollin :rollin
If a bike has been stood for a while (years), then I pop the rocker cover over and drop some fresh oil on the cams, then take the plugs out and drop some petrol/2stroke mix down the bores, then turn the engine by hand a few times, before attempting to start it. It doesn't matter if its on the side stand or not.
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - stevierst - 24-04-14
Starting the bike on the side stand is bad for the engine?????
Oh my god, I've been risking damaging my engine all these years:
How old is this "mechanic", About 12 ???
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Slaninar - 24-04-14
(23-04-14, 09:15 PM)robby boy link Wrote: And when you lean it over to go round a corner where is the oil.
Centrifugal force should negate gravity - if you lean to left, in a fast corner, oil should be in the middle, or even on the right side more than on the left.
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Fazafou - 24-04-14
I seriously thought it must be April the 1st when I read this
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - fazersharp - 24-04-14
The concern is it not that its nothing to do with anything other that the 1st 5 seconds of starting, is the concern that the pump will not have access to enough oil on start up, which side is the pump.
And while I think about it why is the stand on the left on all bikes
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - Dave48 - 24-04-14
(24-04-14, 09:36 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: The concern is it not that its nothing to do with anything other that the 1st 5 seconds of starting, is the concern that the pump will not have access to enough oil on start up, which side is the pump.Surely the stand is on the left so the bike leans towards the kerb-at least in countries where they drive on the left-so probably historic as far as UK goes?
And while I think about it why is the stand on the left on all bikes
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - bigbluebear - 24-04-14
Give this guy a break as he doesn't say what type of mechanic he is......my guess is Tonka Toy or Fisher Price
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - BBROWN1664 - 24-04-14
If the oil level is too low then I can see there may be a problem but given the bike is designed with a side stand thenit suggests with the correct oil level, the inlet for the pump will be submerged in oil with the engine running whilst the bike is on the side stand.
Taylor, your neighbour is wrong. Feel free to point out the error of his ways and ridicule him publicly in the local pubs he frequents.
Re: only running engine on centre stand, - richfzs - 24-04-14
I seem to recall that there was an issue with one of the early jap big bikes, where running it on the sidestand caused the rhs to run dry. Maybe the cbx 1000, was a long way from one side to the other on that :rollin
I've always started every bike I've ridden, on the sidestand though, no problem