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Which Exhaust - swiss - 25-09-13

Hi - looking at changing my end can to something that has a 'better' noise. I currently have the standard can on and just want 1 with a bit more presence I dont want a full blown race can as I ride 86 miles a day on roads and motorway (with ear plugs mind) but just want a nice sounding can ..... I have stainless downpipes already so does any one have any suggestions ??? :rolleyes 

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

Bit of an open ended question to be honest, because there are so many to choose from and everyone on here will say their end can is great!
It's also down to how much you want to spend as well?

Here's video's of two that i have, the Moto GP one is baffled and marked up, so fully legal.
Quill do great exhausts too, although my one is not technically legal, but look on their site and they have plenty that are.  Smile

  http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8009.msg78492.html#msg78492

Re: Which Exhaust - Punkstig - 25-09-13

Mine is the best but you can't have it because it is mine!
































(Self Stubbied scorpion btw!)

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

See..........i told you........ :lol

Re: Which Exhaust - Lawrence - 25-09-13

I have a Scorpion too, sounds good without the baffle in Smile  I've had other people tell me it sounds nice too, so it's not just me Big Grin

Re: Which Exhaust - Lez72 - 25-09-13

Just a word of advice. I searched the net for quite a while deciding which exhaust to fit to my FZS600. I wanted something a little fruity sounding but still road legal and opted for a Motogp carbon stubby from SP Engineering. Its a lovely exhaust. Good quality and well priced. The advert for the item quite clearly stated 'Road Legal'. However, when I took it for a recent MOT I got an advisory for the exhaust being loud (yes, the baffle is fitted). In fairness the exhaust is pretty loud but not what I would call offensive and especially not at 'tickover' which is the only revs the MOT tester heard it at.
I took this matter up with 'SP Engineering' and they stated that they didn't make road legal exhausts. The BS stamp means that the exhaust conforms to british standards in its materials and construction allegedly. Not that it is road legal. This is very annoying considering I would have purchased from a different manufacturer had I not been mislead at the time.
Besides, I have found that loud exhausts sound awesome up to a point but can also become a pain in the arse on longer rides so choose wisely  Wink

Re: Which Exhaust - bandit - 25-09-13

I have one of these sounds, louder than standed pipe & nice with the baffle removed which can be fitted for M.O.T, it is not as loud as a race can.
  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS-600-Fazer-Venom-stainless-steel-road-legal-stainless-sports-Can-/161109928831?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2582e66b7f

You don't have to bid for this just give them a ring & you will get it for the price above.

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

(25-09-13, 06:08 PM)Lez72 link Wrote: Just a word of advice. I searched the net for quite a while deciding which exhaust to fit to my FZS600. I wanted something a little fruity sounding but still road legal and opted for a Motogp carbon stubby from SP Engineering. Its a lovely exhaust. Good quality and well priced. The advert for the item quite clearly stated 'Road Legal'. However, when I took it for a recent MOT I got an advisory for the exhaust being loud (yes, the baffle is fitted). In fairness the exhaust is pretty loud but not what I would call offensive and especially not at 'tickover' which is the only revs the MOT tester heard it at.
I took this matter up with 'SP Engineering' and they stated that they didn't make road legal exhausts. The BS stamp means that the exhaust conforms to british standards in its materials and construction allegedly. Not that it is road legal. This is very annoying considering I would have purchased from a different manufacturer had I not been mislead at the time.
Besides, I have found that loud exhausts sound awesome up to a point but can also become a pain in the arse on longer rides so choose wisely  Wink


So what about their FAQ's section that says this:


" [color=rgb(153, 0, 0)]4. Can the exhaust be used on the road?[/color]

All our exhausts are supplied with removable baffles. With the baffle fitted these cans conform to British Standards and can be used on the road.

Our 300mm & 380mm exhausts are BSAU marked."


I carry this section around with me on paper so if i get any comebacks off it then my finger will definitely start pointing at them.
It was the main reason i bought it because of the markings and the above statement!!!  >:


I know what you mean about the noise though, that's why i put the Quill one on occasionally to give my ears a rest!
And i tried the Moto GP for about 5 seconds the other day without the baffle in and that's just a complete no no as well.

Re: Which Exhaust - Lez72 - 25-09-13

(25-09-13, 07:03 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Lez72 link=topic=10042.msg103906#msg103906 date=1380128928]
Just a word of advice. I searched the net for quite a while deciding which exhaust to fit to my FZS600. I wanted something a little fruity sounding but still road legal and opted for a Motogp carbon stubby from SP Engineering. Its a lovely exhaust. Good quality and well priced. The advert for the item quite clearly stated 'Road Legal'. However, when I took it for a recent MOT I got an advisory for the exhaust being loud (yes, the baffle is fitted). In fairness the exhaust is pretty loud but not what I would call offensive and especially not at 'tickover' which is the only revs the MOT tester heard it at.
I took this matter up with 'SP Engineering' and they stated that they didn't make road legal exhausts. The BS stamp means that the exhaust conforms to british standards in its materials and construction allegedly. Not that it is road legal. This is very annoying considering I would have purchased from a different manufacturer had I not been mislead at the time.
Besides, I have found that loud exhausts sound awesome up to a point but can also become a pain in the arse on longer rides so choose wisely  Wink


So what about their FAQ's section that says this:


" [color=rgb(153, 0, 0)]4. Can the exhaust be used on the road?[/color]

All our exhausts are supplied with removable baffles. With the baffle fitted these cans conform to British Standards and can be used on the road.

Our 300mm & 380mm exhausts are BSAU marked."


I carry this section around with me on paper so if i get any comebacks off it then my finger will definitely start pointing at them.
It was the main reason i bought it because of the markings and the above statement!!!  >:


I know what you mean about the noise though, that's why i put the Quill one on occasionally to give my ears a rest!
And i tried the Moto GP for about 5 seconds the other day without the baffle in and that's just a complete no no as well.
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I know Darrsi, I know, I know, I know (holding head in hands). It was the reason I bought mine as well but when I asked them the question a few weeks back after getting a fresh MOT the bottom line seemed to be that their exhausts are not 'road legal'. My discovery was obtained when I contacted them about whether they made a longer baffle for the Motogp can after obtaining my advisory. That's when I got my answer about them not making 'road legal' exhausts. I was kind of hoping it was a mis informed member of staff giving me my response rather than gospel. At least it was only an advisory. The MOT tester would have been well within his rights to have failed the bike on the loudness of the exhaust if he had wanted to despite the BS markings. After all the OE exhausts are road legal but if they are defective they will fail. My point being that even if something is BS stamped, doesn't mean it can't fail  :'(

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

I got an advisory the first time i put it on but he never saw the BSAU stamp and after i pointed it out he apologised and passed it the next time, no problem.


I wonder how you stand legally if they are selling it as road legal but they may not be?
As far as i'm concerned i bought it in good faith, but apparently due to false advertising.


Also, if they're telling you on their site about track regulations and excessive noise, but they're not road legal either, exactly where the bloody hell are you meant to use it then???  :rolleyes

Re: Which Exhaust - Lez72 - 25-09-13

(25-09-13, 07:34 PM)darrsi link Wrote: I got an advisory the first time i put it on but he never saw the BSAU stamp and after i pointed it out he apologised and passed it the next time, no problem.


I wonder how you stand legally if they are selling it as road legal but they may not be?
As far as i'm concerned i bought it in good faith, but apparently due to false advertising.


Also, if they're telling you on their site about track regulations and excessive noise, but they're not road legal either, exactly where the bloody hell are you meant to use it then???  :rolleyes
I pointed out the BS stamp to my MOT tester and he still gave me the advisory  :o
Strangely enough I have just had a look on ebay at the SP engineering exhausts the same as mine and I can't find an advert that has the FAQ's section anymore or makes any reference to them being 'road legal'. It might be just me but I can't find anything. Have a butchers  :\

Re: Which Exhaust - bigsteve - 25-09-13

Hi swiss

    you might find this interesting  got a delkevic on my thou  It not to loud with Db killer in but if I do say so myself sounds nice

  Yamaha FZS600 Fazer with Delkevic 350mm Titanium slipon silencers



Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

Yeah it still says it, that's where i copied the above from.
Look on the FAQ's part on the SP Engineering website.

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 25-09-13

Maybe the BS stands for 'bullshit'  :lol

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 26-09-13

Just did a Google search "SP Engineering road legal" and loads of people are saying that their exhausts are?
Also found this on Ebay:    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZZR1200-SP-ENGINEERING-BLACK-MOTO-GP-XL-ROAD-LEGAL-EXHAUSTS-/290960860610

I is confused?  :look

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 26-09-13

Decided to contact SP Engineering myself and see what they had to say, this is how it went:


Hello there, there’s been a bit of a discussion on a bike forum I use about the legalities of your exhausts on the road and was wondering if you could give me a definitive answer?
I know your website says “BSAU marked Road Legal” and I purchased one of your Moto GP end cans because of this, but rather than having that nagging doubt in my mind I thought I’d ask the question direct.
Many thanks
Darren Silvester

Hi
Many thanks for your email, Please confirm the make, model, and exact model of exhaust we have supplied?

[color=rgb(31, 73, 125)]I bought the stainless Moto GP (stubby) for my Yamaha FZS 600[/color]

These are not marked road legal although have db killer for MOT use. The XLS range is slightly chunkier, (100x300) these are BSAU marked.
Hope this helps.

[color=rgb(31, 73, 125)]Mine does have the BSAU markings.[/color][color=rgb(31, 73, 125)]I haven’t had any problems with MOT’s and I’ve never ridden on the road with the baffle out as it sounds a bit too lively, as you know.[/color][color=rgb(31, 73, 125)]I wasn’t aware of any exhaust can actually being marked as “road legal”, or are you saying that the BSAU marking is enough as far as the police are concerned?[/color]


Exhausts are very GREY area! no stamp is required for MOT, would need to check with law, each application or view of policeman can vary!
Kind regards

David Pepler
SP Engineering Motorcycle Exhausts & Accessories Ltd
Unit 5 Keyford Court,
Frome,
Somerset,
BA11 4BD


So, pick the bones out of that?

Not really the definitive answer i was looking for but i do appreciate that some police will overlook things, whereas if you've just flown past them at 140mph then they might not be as forgiving!
I think having the BSAU markings is a huge bonus if they do get a bit funny though, and i will continue carrying my paperwork stating that it's okay for road use with the DB killer fitted.  Confusedmokin 






Re: Which Exhaust - richfzs - 26-09-13

My understanding was, that as long as the exhaust isn't marked "not for road use" then it was legal. Since there isn't a specified dB that they must meet, you're then in the hands of the mot man as to whether it's too loud!

I  had a scorpion can, which was straight through and quite "lively", which was marked not for road use, but there are plenty louder that aren't stamp the same. Go figure!

Re: Which Exhaust - darrsi - 26-09-13

There's a fella at my work that has a Soft Tail Harley and when he starts it up you could have 10 of my bikes next to it and you wouldn't even know the engines were running!
It's LOUD  :eek

Re: Which Exhaust - Chris - 26-09-13

I do love my Blueflame can. Lovely sound and with the baffle in it is quite civilised.

Chris


Re: Which Exhaust - bwizz - 26-09-13

I have a Carbon Can Co oval road legal can fitted. I find its a love hate situation, on a long ride the extra noise can be tiring, despite earplugs!
On a short ride the 4 cylinder howl is quite cool.
Don't expect a power improvement . A race can will totally kill the mid range throttle responce.