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Luggage options - cfoley - 13-07-13
I'm looking into luggage for my 98 FZS600 and am not really sure what my options are. Maybe for inspiration, you could post pics of your own luggage setup.
I've been having a wee look online and I really like the topbox and two wingboxes setup. I have a top box left over from my previous bike. Am I right that to use that, I fit a sports rack and then screw the top box's mount to the rack?
What is needed for the three-box setup? Is it a different kind of sports rack or separate side mounts?
I've also been looking at tailpacks for when I don't need to carry so much. It looks like I can buy them to use the same mounts as the topbox but if someone could confirm that, that would be fantastic.
I'm not so keen on the idea of a tank bag but suggestions of other kinds of luggage I might not have heard of are gratefully recieved.
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 13-07-13
I've used this type of luggage in the past, it's great, it even follows you about fully loaded when you get off, so you don't even have to carry anything.
Expensive on fuel though...... :lol
Re: Luggage options - Punkstig - 13-07-13
Sports racks are not made to carry much weight, after attaching a topbox you shouldn't put much in it, givi/kappa racks are designed to carry more weight but be aware they also have a weight limit!
And again if you fit the full wingrack the mount points allow for more weight still!
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 13-07-13
Had a Renntec sports rack on mine a few years back, with a top box on.
Slowed down to go through a 6'6" barrier and the top box overtook me, the rack just snapped clean in half.
They've got some stupid weight limit on them, like 5kg or something!
Re: Luggage options - Punkstig - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 10:50 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Had a Renntec sports rack on mine a few years back, with a top box on.Yep, them sports racks are good for a packed lunch and that's it!
Slowed down to go through a 6'6" barrier and the top box overtook me, the rack just snapped clean in half.
They've got some stupid weight limit on them, like 5kg or something!
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 12:47 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=8809.msg87452#msg87452 date=1373709034]Yep, them sports racks are good for a packed lunch and that's it!
Had a Renntec sports rack on mine a few years back, with a top box on.
Slowed down to go through a 6'6" barrier and the top box overtook me, the rack just snapped clean in half.
They've got some stupid weight limit on them, like 5kg or something!
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Made a horrible noise as the top box slid past me at about 20mph, but i can see the funny side of it now :look
Re: Luggage options - cfoley - 13-07-13
See, this is why I'm glad I asked. Now my life can be a little less funny than yours. :-P
Re: Luggage options - nick crisp - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 07:50 AM)darrsi link Wrote: I've used this type of luggage in the past, it's great, it even follows you about fully loaded when you get off, so you don't even have to carry anything.Wearing flip-flops on a bike - that's shocking...
Expensive on fuel though...... :lol
Re: Luggage options - JoeRock - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 02:39 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=8809.msg87427#msg87427 date=1373698208]Wearing flip-flops on a bike - that's shocking...
I've used this type of luggage in the past, it's great, it even follows you about fully loaded when you get off, so you don't even have to carry anything.
Expensive on fuel though...... :lol
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Have you never been to any other areas apart from Europe? That said, northern Europe too! Africa, Asia, a lot of southern Europe, it's the norm!
Re: Luggage options - nick crisp - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 05:58 PM)JoeRock link Wrote: [quote author=nick crisp link=topic=8809.msg87497#msg87497 date=1373722789]Wearing flip-flops on a bike - that's shocking...
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=8809.msg87427#msg87427 date=1373698208]
I've used this type of luggage in the past, it's great, it even follows you about fully loaded when you get off, so you don't even have to carry anything.
Expensive on fuel though...... :lol
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Have you never been to any other areas apart from Europe? That said, northern Europe too! Africa, Asia, a lot of southern Europe, it's the norm!
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Didn't catch the hint of sarcasm then...
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 13-07-13
:lol
Re: Luggage options - kebab19 - 13-07-13
Just fit a Givi monorack for your topbox
If you do go for a Givi Wingrack2 with a 3 box setup, you'll need a fitting kit (becoming rare) and footrest hangers off a 2000 onwards Fazer as the hangers sit further forward & lower to ground & the fitting kit attaches to these.
Re: Luggage options - gassitt - 13-07-13
That's just what youre supposed to say about them when you haven't actually had any experience of them. the warning sticker on them actually says 2.5 kilos, but
20 plus years of European trips on various bikes all carrying full camping gear on Renntec racks and Ive never had a problem,
If its failed then youve done something with it youre not meant to . like bolting a caravan sized top box to it
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 13-07-13
(13-07-13, 09:33 PM)gassitt link Wrote: That's just what youre supposed to say about them when you haven't actually had any experience of them. the warning sticker on them actually says 2.5 kilos, but
20 plus years of European trips on various bikes all carrying full camping gear on Renntec racks and Ive never had a problem,
If its failed then youve done something with it youre not meant to . like bolting a caravan sized top box to it
It wasn't so much the caravan on the sports rack, i think the pikey family in it may have tipped it over the edge!
Lesson learned :lol
Re: Luggage options - Punkstig - 14-07-13
(13-07-13, 11:35 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=gassitt link=topic=8809.msg87558#msg87558 date=1373747614]
That's just what youre supposed to say about them when you haven't actually had any experience of them. the warning sticker on them actually says 2.5 kilos, but
20 plus years of European trips on various bikes all carrying full camping gear on Renntec racks and Ive never had a problem,
If its failed then youve done something with it youre not meant to . like bolting a caravan sized top box to it
It wasn't so much the caravan on the sports rack, i think the pikey family in it may have tipped it over the edge!
Lesson learned :lol
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I've had 2 racks fail on me, custom made from now on!
Re: Luggage options - bwizz - 14-07-13
I have a special bag strapped to where the pillion sits . holds on with a sort of crossed bungee strap idea . advantages are .it does not catch the wind and slightly affect the handling as (top box on my thou) also gives me something to rest my arse against. only disasdvantage I have notices(apart from the lost passenger space) is that I have to lift my right legg quite high to clear the bag. I also like a loaded tank bag as I can rest against it on long trips , taking weight of my arms
Re: Luggage options - darrsi - 14-07-13
Forgot to mention, there are two roads i use to and from work that have speed bumps down them, i think they more than likely contributed to my sports rack snapping under a bit of weight.
Re: Luggage options - cfoley - 15-07-13
Thanks for all the replies. I asked the Yamaha dealer to give me a quote for the Givi 3 box setup but.....
(13-07-13, 09:22 PM)kebab19 link Wrote: Just fit a Givi monorack for your topbox
If you do go for a Givi Wingrack2 with a 3 box setup, you'll need a fitting kit (becoming rare) and footrest hangers off a 2000 onwards Fazer as the hangers sit further forward & lower to ground & the fitting kit attaches to these.
It sounds like they might come back and say that's no possible. What are the chances of them sourcing the rare bits and changing the (pillipn?) footrests?
Re: Luggage options - cfoley - 18-07-13
Yup, that's exactly what they said. :'(
I've been looking around. I've found 2 sets for the 98 Fazer, both between £550 -- £600. Not Givi, obviously. It's apparently for brand new (or at least unopened) kit.
1.) Wingrack, fitting kit, 2 panniers. The rack and topbox are optional extras.
2.) Wingrack, fitting kit, 2 panniers, mount for tobbox. The topbox itself is not included.
The details for the latter aren't clear so I've asked for a confirmation.
How do these prices look? Are they bargains? About right? Way over the top? It seems reassuring that they are both in the same ballpark.
Re: Luggage options - kebab19 - 18-07-13
From memory, the FZS specific fitting kit is (was?) around £80, a Wingrack2 around £150, a top plate £45, all new. The last two you can still get easily but to me, the fitting kit is your problem area.
Givi sell, or sold a 'Universal fitting kit' for attaching Wingracks to other blunderbuses; would it be worth sending them a mail to ask if it could be modded to fit Fazers?
Edit: A google search revealed someone was selling one on ebay, kindly posted instruction leaflet too- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Givi-Wingrack-2-Rack-Universal-Fitting-Kit-Y127-N140-N141-Top-Box-Motorcycle-/261204862053
Might be worth keeping an eye out on ebay for more of these kits?