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hearing - simonm - 12-07-13

To protect my hearing I've been wearing ear plugs since I started riding.  I have found however that I'm unsure they're doing their job.  Yes they reduce the noise level but it still becomes reasonably loud white noise that I can hear for a long period after getting off the bike.

So I'm toying with the idea of headphones and low music.  Yes I know plenty of you don't wear ear plugs and plenty of you hate the idea of music, if so this isn't the topic for you.

My query is this: does anyone know if the varying pitch of music is more likely to reduce tinnitus than white noise ?

Re: hearing - Loz - 12-07-13

So are you saying that you have tinnitus anyway or that the earplugs cause tinnitus? and what sort of earplugs are you using? i.e are they filtered speciality plugs or generic?


Re: hearing - Punkstig - 12-07-13

These-


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MYO-mould-your-own-Proguard-custom-ear-plugs-Red-better-than-Radians-DIY-/330751067473?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item4d024cc551


There's cheaper alternatives that I've tried and they don't set properly, I've also used ths stuff to make my own custom fitted earphones.


You can buy half decent skull candy earphones from TK Max for £10, you can easily make 3 custom plugs from the pro guards so 1 for practice.


Makes a huge difference to unwanted wind noise at a fraction of the cost of specialist com ones, plus if you do want the earphone choice instead f standard plugs the volume of the music can be greatly reduced to hear clearly than standard in ear headphones!

Re: hearing - mr self destruct - 12-07-13

Personally I find nothing stops my tinnitus. Mind you I've been working in noisy factories with high pitched air hissing for the last 24 years.


I'd have thought the correct choice of ear plug (they come in many different shapes and you can even get tailor made ones) and going for a quieter helmet would be the best option. I never ride without ear plugs and use E.A.R. Ultrafits.

Re: hearing - simonm - 12-07-13

(12-07-13, 09:31 AM)Loz link Wrote: So are you saying that you have tinnitus anyway or that the earplugs cause tinnitus? and what sort of earplugs are you using? i.e are they filtered speciality plugs or generic?

I guess I'm saying that I have mild tinnitus and I don't want it to get worse.  I wear 3m earsoft fx, 39db. And the headphones I'd use would probably be in ear sennheisers.

I'm definitely not saying earplugs cause tinnitus  :\

Re: hearing - Loz - 12-07-13

I dont think there is an easy answer for you, if you dont wear the plugs you risk the Tinnitus getting worse, at the same time there are so many ways of treating tinnitus from meditation, actually wearing a hearing aid (the amplification helps alot of sufferers) to listening to music, so you could say that listening to music may give you some relief from the tinnitus but wont really give you the attenuation protection you need whilst riding  :rolleyes  see what i mean?  no easy answer!! I work in audiology so can get you lots of papers etc etc on both subjects but to be honest Tinnitus is a huge subject as it isnt anything that science has got a 'cure' for yet  :\

Re: hearing - simonm - 12-07-13

(12-07-13, 09:40 AM)Punkstig link Wrote: These-


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MYO-mould-your-own-Proguard-custom-ear-plugs-Red-better-than-Radians-DIY-/330751067473?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item4d024cc551


There's cheaper alternatives that I've tried and they don't set properly, I've also used ths stuff to make my own custom fitted earphones.


You can buy half decent skull candy earphones from TK Max for £10, you can easily make 3 custom plugs from the pro guards so 1 for practice.


Makes a huge difference to unwanted wind noise at a fraction of the cost of specialist com ones, plus if you do want the earphone choice instead f standard plugs the volume of the music can be greatly reduced to hear clearly than standard in ear headphones!
Bought.  Thanks for the advice.

Re: hearing - adeejaysdelight - 12-07-13

Simonm,

I am a fully qualified sound engineer. I go on at my wife NOT to wear in ear earplugs so much because they cause hearing problems in later life. This is because of the artificial environment they create inside your ear canal to give the impression and intensity of loud music, but at the same time your hearing is taking a real bashing. The BBC did an interesting study on this and found that the iPod generation will likely have 40-60% hearing damage by the end of their working life's!!!
If you wear earplugs headphones to block out wind noise (or a machine, whatever) all you are doing is masking the sound. In real terms, you are adding more of another, more pleasing sound, to combat the displeasing sound. You are not dealing with the issue.
I would consider a quieter helmet and maybe some high end custom ear plugs? Maybe even a touring screen... But you have to address the issue, not cover it with more noise. You will only make your situation worse.
Trust me on  this, I have been working in some VERY loud environments (live music, jet engines, gun shots, trackside, skydiving, motorcycling...) for a long time. I have looked after my hearing from day one and at 33, I still have better hearing then my 7yo nephew.


Re: hearing - Tiberius Onklevaart - 12-07-13

What he said.

My hearing is fucked and I'm 33 after years of doing security and bar work in clubs. I wore ear plugs the majority of the time. I also like loud tunes in the ear whilst riding so this hasn't helped.

If you are having white noise after, see your doctor. Keep wearing the plugs. They are doing their job

Re: hearing - simonm - 12-07-13

Thanks for the responses.  Your input and effort is appreciated.  I've ordered some of the stuff recommended by punkstig and perhaps I'll have a hearing test or see my doctor about how to mitigate it.

Cheers all.

Re: hearing - dazza - 12-07-13

(12-07-13, 11:50 AM)adeejaysdelight link Wrote: Simonm,


and at 33, I still have better hearing then my 7yo nephew.
Total bollocks, he's probably just ignoring you. Big Grin

Re: hearing - Exupnut - 12-07-13

I remember when i was 7 i ignored homophobic sexist racists aswell ;-)

Re: hearing - slimwilly - 12-07-13

I have alot of hearing damage, my ear drum vibrates hard now in loud places,i have to put my fingers in my ears when the loud starts,


I always , always wear my custom plugs,even if you get headwind noise,sometimes worse than normal even with the plugs,,keep them in.


I rode Cirencester to Swindon last week , left the services and forgot to put them in,, hell itwas so so so loud,,,keep them in lad.

Re: hearing - nick crisp - 12-07-13

What? I'm sorry, I didn't get any of that, can we start again?  :lol

Re: hearing - adeejaysdelight - 12-07-13

(12-07-13, 05:24 PM)dazza link Wrote: [quote author=adeejaysdelight link=topic=8794.msg87274#msg87274 date=1373626249]
Simonm,


and at 33, I still have better hearing then my 7yo nephew.
Total bollocks, he's probably just ignoring you. Big Grin
[/quote]


Right enough, he knows when I'm saying "do you fancy an ice cream Stewart?" !!!  :lol

Re: hearing - Stooby2 - 13-07-13

Quote:I have alot of hearing damage, my ear drum vibrates hard now in loud places,i have to put my fingers in my ears when the loud starts

I was going to suggest this as a simple alternatives to earplugs etc when riding. However I realised that would be daft as you'd have to drill large holes in your crash helmet to do it.

Re: hearing - simonm - 13-07-13

(13-07-13, 12:54 PM)Stooby2 link Wrote:
Quote:I have alot of hearing damage, my ear drum vibrates hard now in loud places,i have to put my fingers in my ears when the loud starts

I was going to suggest this as a simple alternatives to earplugs etc when riding. However I realised that would be daft as you'd have to drill large holes in your crash helmet to do it.
:rollin

Re: hearing - bigfootpete - 14-07-13

I used the custom made plugs for a good few years, but they are ineffective now.

I found moldable silicon plugs in Boots or Super drug to be pretty good up to 80mph.

The foam ones never worked for me and come out too easily, I also used them to get to sleep one night
and woke up with my ears ringing! So the ear plugs actually gave me tinnitus...

Re: hearing - pitternator - 18-07-13

eh ??

speak up young man !

Re: hearing - seangee - 18-07-13

Recently switched to using these. They're brill