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is it me - alan09 - 26-07-12
or is so wrong, my daughter took this picture on the M1 yes the M1 yesterday
Re: is it me - JZS 600 - 26-07-12
Mate, I've been to Thailand, that's nothing!
Re: is it me - BBROWN1664 - 26-07-12
Its legal. Whether it is sensible becasue of the slow speed those things tend to do is another matter.
Re: is it me - Slaninar - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 11:52 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: Its legal. Whether it is sensible becasue of the slow speed those things tend to do is another matter.
Yup, I never ride under 100 if there's kids on board. Love it when they screeeeam!
Re: is it me - goldfazer - 26-07-12
Not sure it is legal. The pillion has to reach the footrests not the 'mudguard'.
Re: is it me - Grahamm - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 11:36 AM)alan09 link Wrote: or is so wrong, my daughter took this picture on the M1 yes the M1 yesterday
Well it's legal, but whether it's sensible or not is another matter!
Re: is it me - Grahamm - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 11:52 AM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: Its legal. Whether it is sensible becasue of the slow speed those things tend to do is another matter.
Ok, that was spooky!
Re: is it me - Grahamm - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 12:33 PM)goldfazer link Wrote: Not sure it is legal. The pillion has to reach the footrests not the 'mudguard'.
Nope, the "footrests" requirements is a "should" not a "must":
Quote:Highway Code Paragraph 85: You MUST NOT carry more than one pillion passenger who MUST sit astride the machine on a proper seat. They should face forward with both feet on the footrests. You MUST NOT carry a pillion passenger unless your motor cycle is designed to do so. Provisional licence holders MUST NOT carry a pillion passenger.
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 23, MV(DL)R 1999 reg 16(6) & CUR 1986 reg 102]
Re: is it me - Phil TK - 26-07-12
Most, -probably nine out of ten of the worlds scooter/step thru owners do this with kids every day.
Quite a thought.
Re: is it me - Motorbreath - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 12:32 PM)Slaninar link Wrote: [quote author=BBROWN1664 link=topic=4002.msg32615#msg32615 date=1343299944]
Its legal. Whether it is sensible becasue of the slow speed those things tend to do is another matter.
Yup, I never ride under 100 if there's kids on board. Love it when they screeeeam!
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:lol
I think some vespas are pretty fast, like the 2 stroke 200. My father had one when I was a boy, with a backrest for the pillion. 70mph no problem. It was fun, my first biking feelings.
Re: is it me - keithfzs1000 - 26-07-12
you think thats bad
Re: is it me - Tiberius Onklevaart - 26-07-12
I'd love it if that was real. Wheelie central
Re: is it me - ddtwelve - 26-07-12
Ooops have to confess I've done it with my daughters aged 8 the other week on our lasses piaggio x8 125 she could put her feet on the barge boards and had protective motorbike gear on but I was more scared than her not knowing if she was holding on tight enough
Re: is it me - Slaninar - 26-07-12
Made a lot of mate's kids very happy this way, but in 0 traffic areas. At speeds of about 10 km/h. It was so good I thought: "it was worth buying a scooter just because of this!"
Smaller (younger) kids were standing in front of me, holding onto the bars as we rode. Smiling from ear to ear. "Do it again, do it again, do it again..."
Re: is it me - Kosmic Kartman - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 12:41 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=goldfazer link=topic=4002.msg32619#msg32619 date=1343302412]
Not sure it is legal. The pillion has to reach the footrests not the 'mudguard'.
Nope, the "footrests" requirements is a "should" not a "must":
Quote:Highway Code Paragraph 85: You MUST NOT carry more than one pillion passenger who MUST sit astride the machine on a proper seat. They should face forward with both feet on the footrests. You MUST NOT carry a pillion passenger unless your motor cycle is designed to do so. Provisional licence holders MUST NOT carry a pillion passenger.[/quote]
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 23, MV(DL)R 1999 reg 16(6) & CUR 1986 reg 102]
So what you're saying is it's Ok for them to face backwards if they wish... And their feet don't have to touch the pegs. :lol Yeah Right!
It's a bit ambiguous. From my understanding you have to sit astride the machine on a proper seat facing forward with both feet touching pegs.
Re: is it me - Kosmic Kartman - 26-07-12
Here's a pic of my little-un just about to roll.
![[Image: AdandEmmaFazer.jpg]](http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/AdandEmmaFazer.jpg)
Re: is it me - jason1 - 26-07-12
I cant see a prob with kids on bike , my 8 year old loves it and always wears the full gear. Not denim jacket and bloody leggings, thats just foolish. Agree as above , feet have to reach foot pegs in my view. Gives both on bike confidence and balance :lol
Re: is it me - alan09 - 26-07-12
yeah nowt wrong with kids on bikes if they're wearing the correct gear and the bike is suitable to carry children. but the bike in question as far as i can see isn't even equipped to carry a pillion & as goldfazer said the kids usin the mudguard as a footrest. if they were having a little bimble round the local park it would probably deemed acceptable, but the daft cnut is riding down the M1 with what looks like a 6 year old kid on the back, maybe its me gettin owd but it aint rite.
Re: is it me - JZS 600 - 26-07-12
Looks like she fits on the back pretty well really!
I used to ride off road a lot when in my late teens/early 20's and my mates kids were always along for a ride, they used to love it. My son's been on the back of my bike when he was smaller, just up and down the road a bit slowly but now he's graduated from a scooter to a CR 125 and loving it. (also my mates son who is on an SV 650 now) Nothing wrong with starting them young in the right environment, my wife used to go on the back of her Grandad's R100 when she was little round London.
When should you start on bike then? I had a TS 100 when I was 12...... off road of course! (mostly)
Re: is it me - Grahamm - 26-07-12
(26-07-12, 06:07 PM)Kosmic Kartman link Wrote: So what you're saying is it's Ok for them to face backwards if they wish...
No, that's what the *law* says. You'd be stupid to let them face backwards, but it's not illegal, otherwise those cameramen who film cycle races sitting backwards on a pillion seat would be breaking the law.