Author Topic: there may be trouble ahead... (Read 10261 times)

lds1973 · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 July 2013, 10:11:23 pm »

Gently abrasion is OK. I would take a needle gun to them but certainly have a go with wire wool and emery paper with wd40. What have you got to loose?

bellycgb · « **Reply #26 on:** 22 July 2013, 10:26:45 pm »

Quote from: lds1973 on 22 July 2013, 10:11:23 pm

Gently abrasion is OK. I would take a needle gun to them but certainly have a go with wire wool and emery paper with wd40. What have you got to loose?

very true, also heard autosol brings up pistons a treat i shall give it a try

elbrownos · « **Reply #27 on:** 22 July 2013, 11:11:21 pm »

Worst case if you scratch the pistons you will get a slow leakage of brake fluid past the seals.
Just check your brake fluid level regularly and you should be ok. Running out of brake fluid would be disastrous.

Bracechenko · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 July 2013, 08:59:53 am »

I've got a cheap bike for sale. She's a runner and has strong engine and box. Can do you a deal, pm if interested

Dead Eye · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 July 2013, 01:09:22 pm »

I used some Wet & Dry on one of my rear pistons as there was a slight nick in the piston which caused the metal to form a sharp point that would have chewed up the new seals I put in - its been fine since, no leaking

kebab19 · « **Reply #30 on:** 23 July 2013, 01:18:00 pm »

Battery on ebay £36 151087135604
O-ring chain & sprockets £68.99 310685699257
Your front hoses sound like they are still ok for another couple of years, let the MoT tester decide!
Instead of another duff rear caliper & pads, I would go for this TRX850 rear caliper, bracket & torque arm setup & just get a longer brake hose to sort out AND improve the feel of the rear brake : ebay item 151085020066 £30 + brake line
Front calipers - take that offer of a used set, clean them up & if you need them, get some Nikone brake piston seals to restore stopping power
Sprocket gasket - cough up
Forks seals - cough up. But wait, are the stanchions pitted?
Oil & filter - cough up (hi-flo pattern filter cheaper & just as good as OEM Yamaha filter)
Coolant - open rad cap, if its still that snot green colour, leave it as is
Air filter - try it as is first before replacing

unfazed · « **Reply #31 on:** 23 July 2013, 06:25:16 pm »

Yes you are correct as it can leave the piston leak prone, however if you use the plastic kitchen scourer it will remove tough marks.

bellycgb · « **Reply #32 on:** 24 July 2013, 01:58:26 pm »

Quote from: kebab19 on 23 July 2013, 01:18:00 pm

Battery on ebay £36 151087135604
O-ring chain & sprockets £68.99 310685699257
Your front hoses sound like they are still ok for another couple of years, let the MoT tester decide!
Instead of another duff rear caliper & pads, I would go for this TRX850 rear caliper, bracket & torque arm setup & just get a longer brake hose to sort out AND improve the feel of the rear brake : ebay item 151085020066 £30 + brake line
Front calipers - take that offer of a used set, clean them up & if you need them, get some Nikone brake piston seals to restore stopping power
Sprocket gasket - cough up
Forks seals - cough up. But wait, are the stanchions pitted?
Oil & filter - cough up (hi-flo pattern filter cheaper & just as good as OEM Yamaha filter)
Coolant - open rad cap, if its still that snot green colour, leave it as is
Air filter - try it as is first before replacing

ok started ordering stuff:

D.I.D 50vxgb gold chain and sprockets - [size=78%]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321040757202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/size]
Exide YT12B-BS Battery - [/size][size=78%]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310606836197?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648[/size]

It looks like i have the old style front sprocket nut fitted, so it makes sense to replace it with the uprated one, should i get a new sprocket washer too or ok to use the old one?

I checked the stanchions and they are indeed pitted $:\$ so that will be something else to change. rear caliper is totally seized up couldn't get the piston out even with compressed air. might go for that one on ebay.

thank you everyone for all your input

i'll keep you guys posted on the progress

darrsi · « **Reply #33 on:** 24 July 2013, 02:07:30 pm »

Quote from: bellycgb on 24 July 2013, 01:58:26 pm

Quote from: kebab19 on 23 July 2013, 01:18:00 pm
Battery on ebay £36 151087135604
O-ring chain & sprockets £68.99 310685699257
Your front hoses sound like they are still ok for another couple of years, let the MoT tester decide!
Instead of another duff rear caliper & pads, I would go for this TRX850 rear caliper, bracket & torque arm setup & just get a longer brake hose to sort out AND improve the feel of the rear brake : ebay item 151085020066 £30 + brake line
Front calipers - take that offer of a used set, clean them up & if you need them, get some Nikone brake piston seals to restore stopping power
Sprocket gasket - cough up
Forks seals - cough up. But wait, are the stanchions pitted?
Oil & filter - cough up (hi-flo pattern filter cheaper & just as good as OEM Yamaha filter)
Coolant - open rad cap, if its still that snot green colour, leave it as is
Air filter - try it as is first before replacing

ok started ordering stuff:

D.I.D 50vxgb gold chain and sprockets - [size=78%]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321040757202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/size]
Exide YT12B-BS Battery - [size=78%]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310606836197?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648[/size]

It looks like i have the old style front sprocket nut fitted, so it makes sense to replace it with the uprated one, should i get a new sprocket washer too or ok to use the old one?

I checked the stanchions and they are indeed pitted $:\$ so that will be something else to change. rear caliper is totally seized up couldn't get the piston out even with compressed air. might go for that one on ebay.

thank you everyone for all your input i'll keep you guys posted on the progress

Get the sprocket nut as a kit, don't use the old washer.

Part number 90891-10124

bellycgb · « **Reply #34 on:** 24 July 2013, 02:23:50 pm »

Where is the best place to order that from?

darrsi · « **Reply #35 on:** 24 July 2013, 02:45:08 pm »

Give Wemoto a ring first, but insist on that part number only. They deliver very quickly.

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/

If not, Fowlers of Bristol will definitely have them. They'll ask you for your chassis number though, on your frame at the right side of the tank i think?

http://www.fowlersonlineshop.co.uk/help/contactus.aspx

bellycgb · « **Reply #36 on:** 24 July 2013, 02:54:13 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 24 July 2013, 02:45:08 pm

Give Wemoto a ring first, but insist on that part number only. They deliver very quickly.

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/

If not, Fowlers of Bristol will definitely have them. They'll ask you for your chassis number though, on your frame at the right side of the tank i think?

http://www.fowlersonlineshop.co.uk/help/contactus.aspx

Just ordered from wemoto cheers darrsi

darrsi · « **Reply #37 on:** 24 July 2013, 02:57:02 pm »

Quote from: bellycgb on 24 July 2013, 02:54:13 pm

Quote from: darrsi on 24 July 2013, 02:45:08 pm

Give Wemoto a ring first, but insist on that part number only. They deliver very quickly.

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/

If not, Fowlers of Bristol will definitely have them. They'll ask you for your chassis number though, on your frame at the right side of the tank i think?

http://www.fowlersonlineshop.co.uk/help/contactus.aspx

Just ordered from wemoto cheers darrsi

Possibility you'll have it by tomorrow, the latest Friday, that's why i like using them.

bellycgb · « **Reply #38 on:** 24 July 2013, 03:02:17 pm »

it will probably arrive before my chain and sprockets turn up lol

kebab19 · « **Reply #39 on:** 24 July 2013, 03:02:52 pm »

This Thunderace brake line (item number 321170826643, £7) will fit that TRX caliper; I know because I have a Thunderace rear caliper & brakeline mated to a TRX50 mounting bracket & torque arm. So that's everything you need to sort the back brake out.

How bad is the pitting on the fork sliders - up high or down low? You might get away with changing seals, otherwise it'll cost a fair bit to sort new stanchions out

Air filter - take it out & bung a local dealer £1 to use his air hose line, you can usually blast paper filters out once to double their lifespan. Or twice if you're tight/ desperate ;-)

darrsi · « **Reply #40 on:** 24 July 2013, 03:12:43 pm »

After the air filter can take no more air blasting you can then give it to your nan for Xmas and explain that it's a very rare origami ornament.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #41 on:** 24 July 2013, 04:53:42 pm »

There are places that can replate your fork sliders. Don't know how much, but possibly a good way out?

bellycgb · « **Reply #42 on:** 24 July 2013, 05:09:03 pm »

they ain't pretty i'll take a picture in a bit. thanks for the brake info the i'll look into that

bellycgb · « **Reply #43 on:** 24 July 2013, 07:29:05 pm »

oh dear...

kebab19 · « **Reply #44 on:** 24 July 2013, 07:35:26 pm »

Uh-oh, no chance of easily restoring those, just buy these to save a lot of hassle & time
Item 121145062187

bellycgb · « **Reply #45 on:** 24 July 2013, 07:41:02 pm »

it wasn't until i took the picture that i realised how bad they were

oh well lesson learned don't leave your bike rotting for 6 years pmsl. i have all the time i need to get it going so one thing at a time.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #46 on:** 24 July 2013, 08:05:44 pm »

Holy shit, another one for the deep sea wrecks album!

Dave48 · « **Reply #47 on:** 24 July 2013, 09:10:50 pm »

Could you post a few pics of the bike-because the corrosion visible so far is severe to say the least. Hope you didn't pay much for it/? You may be throwing good money after bad & you may be better off taking up Bracechenkos offer or something similar.

bellycgb · « **Reply #48 on:** 24 July 2013, 09:24:57 pm »

Quote from: Dave48 on 24 July 2013, 09:10:50 pm

Could you post a few pics of the bike-because the corrosion visible so far is severe to say the least. Hope you didn't pay much for it/? You may be throwing good money after bad & you may be better off taking up Bracechenkos offer or something similar.

had this bike from new, bought it in 2002 and its been in the garage for 6 year. i'm very close to the sea hence the damage.

before and after pics lol

unfazed · « **Reply #49 on:** 24 July 2013, 09:29:16 pm »

Did you store it in the sea?