Author Topic: Lights Have Failed! (Read 5429 times)

Fizzy Pies · « **on:** 09 June 2013, 05:47:19 pm »

Just to be clear, both lights came on when I was pressing the passing light, with the full beam switch to on. Erm nothing comes on with the light switch.

Horn seems to be a bit iffy at the moment too.

Mark YPVS · « **Reply #1 on:** 09 June 2013, 06:25:18 pm »

Might be the contacts inside the switches, get them a shot of this

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_195717_langId_-1_categoryId_255223
or WD40
Mark

darrsi · « **Reply #2 on:** 09 June 2013, 06:30:13 pm »

Have you had a hose on the bike at all?

His Dudeness · « **Reply #3 on:** 09 June 2013, 07:09:45 pm »

I can't see the video but there's two filaments in the bulbs and if it works on high beams and not on low beams then the low beam filaments might be blown. You could pop out the bulbs and have a look

His Dudeness · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 June 2013, 07:23:56 pm »

I'm on a train so I think videos are blocked

darrsi · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 June 2013, 07:50:15 pm »

Quote from: His Dudeness on 09 June 2013, 07:09:45 pm

I can't see the video but there's two filaments in the bulbs and if it works on high beams and not on low beams then the low beam filaments might be blown. You could pop out the bulbs and have a look

2 filaments in one bulb, not both, an H1 and H4.

His Dudeness · « **Reply #6 on:** 09 June 2013, 07:57:45 pm »

oh yeah forgot the 600 has crappy lights

darrsi · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 June 2013, 08:00:10 pm »

Quote from: His Dudeness on 09 June 2013, 07:57:45 pm

oh yeah forgot the 600 has crappy lights

Not wrong there!!

Punkstig · « **Reply #8 on:** 10 June 2013, 01:30:47 pm »

Fault finding check order-
1. Battery terminal's tight,
2. Fuses
3. Bulbs
4. Switch gear

red98 · « **Reply #9 on:** 10 June 2013, 02:08:49 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 09 June 2013, 08:00:10 pm

Quote from: His Dudeness on 09 June 2013, 07:57:45 pm
oh yeah forgot the 600 has crappy lights

Not wrong there!!

hey fizzy....you done well to notice there not working

His Dudeness · « **Reply #10 on:** 10 June 2013, 09:17:05 pm »

Must be a broken wire between the switch and the bulb? Try turning the switch on and wiggle the headlight wires around and keep an eye on the headlight. See if it comes on

His Dudeness · « **Reply #11 on:** 10 June 2013, 10:40:49 pm »

You need to increase swearing by 40% then have another go. Maybe the wire from the switch to the bulb is worn through and is going to ground when you turn it on. Check if youve got 12v going to the switch and then if youve got 12v going to the bulb holder with the switch on. Im only guessing here btw

unfazed · « **Reply #12 on:** 10 June 2013, 11:25:22 pm »

Before you follow the procedure here, answer 2 questions
1 Did it happen suddenly, (was ok yesterday and gone today) or was somebody modifing the wiring before it happened
2.Have you modified the wiring to bring on the dim on the right side.
Lift the tank, open the box with all the connectors in it. Trace the cable from the right handlebar switch into the box disconnect the plug with the Red/yellow tracer, Light Blue and Light blue/black wires and move it out of the way. Switch on the ignition and you should get 12 volts on the Red yellow on the part still in the box.. Bypass the on off light switch by using a piece or wire or a paper clip by bridging the Red/yellow (with the 12v on it) and the Light Blue/Black. The dims should come on. Bridge the Red/Yellow and the Light Blue and the parking lights should come on.
Post the result.

ChristoT · « **Reply #13 on:** 12 June 2013, 08:04:50 pm »

Just had a long conversation with Fizzy about it. Turns out the brown connector to the switch was half melted. Cause for concern, I think. Could it be shorting out?

Fizzy said he'd fit a new connector, and get back to us about it.

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #14 on:** 12 June 2013, 08:10:41 pm »

Wouldn't it be better to find out why the connector melted before replacing? Just a thought...

ChristoT · « **Reply #15 on:** 12 June 2013, 08:44:34 pm »

Quote from: nick crisp on 12 June 2013, 08:10:41 pm

Wouldn't it be better to find out why the connector melted before replacing? Just a thought...

I thought that too. But what is odd is that the fuse is OK according to Fizzy. It may be that a previous owner tried fitting higher powered bulbs, and putting additional load on the system or something similar, but we can't tell WHEN it happened.

If changing the connector works, at least Fizzy will know that he has to keep an eye on it. If the lights go again, he'll know where to look. As long as the man can see, and can be seen!!

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #16 on:** 12 June 2013, 08:50:41 pm »

I agree, that's odd. But what kind of condition is the wiring in and around and in the connector anyway? - I'm not really able to tell from the pic. Has something been shorting around there?

unfazed · « **Reply #17 on:** 12 June 2013, 08:58:18 pm »

I have seen problems like that previously, but was caused by loose connections arcing rather than an overloaded circuit.
At least he has found the fault

and another happier foccer

ChristoT · « **Reply #18 on:** 12 June 2013, 09:18:31 pm »

Bloody glad they're working, mate!! Keep an eye on that block connector though. If they're now working again, it would seem the melt is recent.

Glad to hear they're fixed though!

unfazed · « **Reply #19 on:** 12 June 2013, 09:32:17 pm »

Is that a computer molex 4 way connector I see there?

ChristoT · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 June 2013, 09:33:26 pm »

Quote from: unfazed on 12 June 2013, 09:32:17 pm

Is that a computer molex 4 way connector I see there?

Apparently so...

Dead Eye · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 June 2013, 10:50:42 am »

Ah molex connectors... that takes me back to some rather iffy electronics whilst in school haha

ChristoT · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 September 2014, 09:31:49 pm »

Just a wild guess, but that may be it...

ChristoT · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 September 2014, 10:43:49 pm »

That doesn't look like a standard connector... all fuses OK? It might just be a blown connector rather than a blown CDI

ChristoT · « **Reply #24 on:** 25 September 2014, 11:27:36 pm »

I did. Hence post.

Author Topic: Lights Have Failed! (Read 5429 times)

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