More problems... non-starter and cutting out.

[red98]

when you say no spark,is that on all plugs ?...as crh says 2 coils, mounted next to fuel pump,one coil supplies cly 1+4 the other 2+3.i`ll be surprised if both coils have failed at the same time...yes should run on 2 cylinders,did you replace the plugs ? check the ends of the ht leads these go hard after time,they can be trimmed and then re-fit the cap...not too much though as wont reach the plug,then its new coil time 
 if no spark on any plugs i would look at side stand switch,kill switch and ignition switch next 

[CRH]

and??....if none of the above??......chaqnge the ecu??

[ade the blade]

and??....if none of the above??......chaqnge the ecu??

if none of the above........4.5 ltrs of best unleaded and a nice shiny new ciggy lighter. never fails !!

[Lawrence]

Plugs were changed today, didn't really make any difference but the old ones were pretty scabby - two of them looked like they'd been sitting in a puddle for a while.  The one with no spark was cyl 4, I didn't check the others but I'll take a spare plug with my tomorrow so that when it does it I can check them all.
I'll check out the ECU, I agree it seems unlikely that both coils would die at the same time.  Might be the weekend before I get to check it out, hopefully it won't screw me around too much tomorrow/Friday.
Thanks for the advice so far, hopefully I can get this sorted out asap - I do 600 miles a week on it just going to work 

[red98]

good idea taking plug with you....starting point has to be to see if you have/have not got a spark on all of the plugs / cylinders    .......do you know how long the old plugs have been in the bike ?

[Lawrence]

No idea, a couple of years at least judging from the condition of them.

[ade the blade]

have you got a spark on plugs #1 and 4? if so then left ( sat on bike ) coil should be fine. #2 and 3 are right hand. if no sparks at all good chance problem is in ecu / ignitor box of tricks as clive ( crh) has stated.........either that or it was a lucky guess knowing him   only kidding clive

[CRH]

have you got a spark on plugs #1 and 4? if so then left ( sat on bike ) coil should be fine. #2 and 3 are right hand. if no sparks at all good chance problem is in ecu / ignitor box of tricks as clive ( crh) has stated.........either that or it was a lucky guess knowing him   only kidding clive

.....lucky guess!!!!! how dare you? .....and i thought you was my pal????? .......cum along red? ..... ......ime not speaking to that blade bloke agen?....until he makes a retraction!!!!!

[ade the blade]

have you got a spark on plugs #1 and 4? if so then left ( sat on bike ) coil should be fine. #2 and 3 are right hand. if no sparks at all good chance problem is in ecu / ignitor box of tricks as clive ( crh) has stated.........either that or it was a lucky guess knowing him   only kidding clive

.....lucky guess!!!!! how dare you? .....and i thought you was my pal????? .......cum along red? ..... ......ime not speaking to that blade bloke agen?....until he makes a retraction!!!!!

think i read that too quick............sounded pretty sexual. yucky

[CRH]

no!!!! not sexual at all!!!!!.........but???? ......he did ask me if i would do his housework for him?...whilst he played around with his ..genny!????? ....of cause i declined!!!!!

[red98]

now now boys,calm down your both  getting over excited...and you know what happened last time......
 
back to the problem ,if no spark on any cylinders i too would suggest changing ecu,simple job,2 plugs,2 screws,job done....as you know i do have a spare but not for sale...if your local your welcome to come round and try it 

[ade the blade]

now now boys,calm down your both  getting over excited...and you know what happened last time......
 
back to the problem ,if no spark on any cylinders i too would suggest changing ecu,simple job,2 plugs,2 screws,job done....as you know i do have a spare but not for sale...if your local your welcome to come round and try it 

pot / kettle....................................filth !!

[red98]

new that was wrong as i was typing it ...trying to be all polite tonight and not lower myself to you levels...these guys are just here for a bit of help...this is foc-u.......FAZER OWNERS CLUB.....not the filth sites you spend most of your lonley nights on.....  

[ade the blade]

new that was wrong as i was typing it ...trying to be all polite tonight and not lower myself to you levels...these guys are just here for a bit of help...this is foc-u.......FAZER OWNERS CLUB.....not the filth sites you spend most of your lonley nights on.....

read between the smut and the advice is there for our fellow owners.........as we go through the keyhole !!!!!!!!!!! oh and i aint watched `greasing up those nipples` on BSA for beginners for quite a few weeks now anyway,it sounds like you`re gonna build a monastery and sell lavendar soap before long brother !!

[CRH]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh !!!!!........ADE?.......reds gone straight????????...... ...he doesnt want to be in our gang no more??

[ade the blade]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh !!!!!........ADE?.......reds gone straight????????...... ...he doesnt want to be in our gang no more??

dont worry clive, he`s into us for too many bucks..............got him by the short and curlies !!

[CRH]

your right as allways ade!!.....he would be lost without us?......specialy now hes got a gen 1..... ...cant wait t take that t bits??

[ade the blade]

time for beddy byes children.......busy one tomorrow . sleep tight and...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
keep those hands on top of the duvet   A.T.B has left the forum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lawrence]

I dunno, you leave the place unattended for a couple of hours... 

Anyway, it behaved itself today, started (cold and warm/hot) perfectly every time.  I did notice though that I've got a bit of hesitation when snapping the throttle open at motorway speeds - holds back for a couple of seconds and then starts pulling.  Quite possibly related, or could this be down to having an aftermarket can on it?

Red, bit far to go to try it out as I'm in Colchester, but thanks for the offer.  There are loads on ebay so if I do narrow it down to that, I'll get one off there.  Got to check all the plugs/connectors first to make sure none are corroded or anything.

[CRH]

wouldnt hurt pocket to much to pick up a spare ecu?......for the sake of a tenner?.....if it does turn out to be that?....and goes altogether ? you may wish you had?? .......simple job to swap?....

[Lawrence]

Think I might've fixed it!  Just went to start it up and it didn't want to know... moved the steering left/right a few times and tried again, nothing... tried killswitch a few times, still nothing... ignition off/on a few times and it fired up straight away    Loads of contact cleaner down the keyhole and turned the key a few times to get it all round the switch so hopefully it won't happen again, time will tell I guess.  Will also find out of this was related to the hesitation, but I'm not too hopeful there to be honest.
 
Got rid of the chirping noise too, loosened off the chain by half a turn and gave it a clean/lube.
 
I also learnt to move the chain round by turning the wheel, not the chain, because if you move it round when your thumb is nearer the sprocket than you thought it gets squished and bloody hurts 

[ade the blade]

Think I might've fixed it!  Just went to start it up and it didn't want to know... moved the steering left/right a few times and tried again, nothing... tried killswitch a few times, still nothing... ignition off/on a few times and it fired up straight away    Loads of contact cleaner down the keyhole and turned the key a few times to get it all round the switch so hopefully it won't happen again, time will tell I guess.  Will also find out of this was related to the hesitation, but I'm not too hopeful there to be honest.
 
Got rid of the chirping noise too, loosened off the chain by half a turn and gave it a clean/lube.
 
I also learnt to move the chain round by turning the wheel, not the chain, because if you move it round when your thumb is nearer the sprocket than you thought it gets squished and bloody hurts 

i think we have all done that at some point mate......at least you were sensible and had engine off. doesn`t bear thinking about. good to see ya making headway . be wary of what you spray in keyholes. wd40 etc tend to do `the biz` but attract more grit and dirt than ever before, leading to future probs. try and use graphite powder. only need a little. just as good without the headache. cheers Ade

[Lawrence]

I used contact cleaner which should dissolve any shite that's in there on the switch contacts.  I don't have any graphite powder but I'll see if I can get my hands on some.  Hopefully a clean has fixed it

[CRH]

a few crushed pencil leads would suffice me thinks?....

[red98]

I used contact cleaner which should dissolve any shite that's in there on the switch contacts.  I don't have any graphite powder but I'll see if I can get my hands on some.  Hopefully a clean has fixed it

 
nice one lawrence....fingers crossed it solves the problem....dont forget to update....