folk starting to take the p--- now

[Phil]

 

Rossis skills are so extreme he has to have machinery to do the job, to match stoner ( who is probably the best current rider in the world)  on a slower bike is a big ask..

oh and when I said " faster" in earlier comments , it is lap times I am referring to...just how else are racers compared or  judged by ????  .. its all about lap times...consistency 
 

If Rossi beat Stoner then Rossi would have the faster bike 

[pitternator]

obviously !....but the difference in a set up can make  a massive difference for 2 riders on the same bike...
 
I think you need to contrast the performance of spies and lorenzo...supposedly on the same bike, yet one comes 2 nd the other comes 10th...if the set up dont suit the rider then he cant perform. Spies has shown he can race, either he or the bike are not in the zone .Yet after just 2 races this season there is already talk of him being replaced by Crutchlow ! Feck, its a competitive world...

[Skippernick]

pitternator can you write your responses a bit more concisely because i fall alseep half way through reading them, they're to long