running lumpy

[darrsi]

The TPS check wont show 3K. Where did you get that number from?

It's either 0, 5 or 10K.

Think he meant he was "expecting" a 3K reading, as in faulty, because of his luck so far.

[darrenc]

I read somewhere if it read 3k it was a TPS fault?? not sure where, i hear 0 and 10k meant it needed adjusting and 5k was ok. As for the photos they are shocking, not sure what was going on there hahah.

[Fazerider]

... As for the photos they are shocking, not sure what was going on there hahah.

Not enough light. Nobody can hand-hold a camera steady for a 6 second exposure.


Anyway, back to the bike... why not try the easy things first?
Adjusting the TPS is a good thing to do once you've sorted the problem out but it was never going to be the cause of it.
1. Trim the HT leads.
2. If that doesn't work try swapping the plug caps (JUST the caps) between plugs 1 and 4, if the fault moves to Cylinder 4 then get some straight NGK replacements.
3. Try a new plug
4. Get the carbs off and clean them.
5. Reset the idle and adjust the TPS.

[BBROWN1664]

before step 4 above, try balancing the carbs. May just be badly adjusted.

[darrenc]

I don't own a carb tune unfortunately, and I don't want to start cutting stuff (ht leads etc) in case I make a complete hash of it. I'm going to take it to a local garage tomorrow who I have used multiple times before so trust them. What I will do is say it may simply be a dud plug or lead cap, if it isn't either of those its likely to be something carb related such as blocked jet etc. If it is carb related I might ask them to clean the carbs out and balance for me at same time I need this focking bike running sweet as a but for two weeks time as it will then become my only means of transport for my daily commute in my new job. If the garage can't sort it then I may need to call upon my experienced foccers to wither come to my aid in West Yorkshire or I can ride to someone as long as it isn't too far away and compensate via means of beer, pub lunch out and beer or good old cash and I will hopefully learn a thing or two in the process as well

[darrenc]

Ok bike booked in, garage phoned, new set of plugs going in and the carb is being ultrasonically cleaned (do they get sonic the hedgehog round for that) anyway it should be ready for me to pick up tomorrow and im hoping it will run as sweet as a nut thanks for everyones help in the forum and im sure you will be hearing from me again with other bike and none bike related troubles. You are all such a helpful bunch of Foccers i might even manage to get out on a ride out with a few of you in the future, i live in Gods own County so am never too far from a good ride

[Fazer99]

Ok bike booked in, garage phoned, new set of plugs going in and the carb is being ultrasonically cleaned (do they get sonic the hedgehog round for that) anyway it should be ready for me to pick up tomorrow and im hoping it will run as sweet as a nut thanks for everyones help in the forum and im sure you will be hearing from me again with other bike and none bike related troubles. You are all such a helpful bunch of Foccers i might even manage to get out on a ride out with a few of you in the future, i live in Gods own County so am never too far from a good ride

Hope you manage to get it all sorted.

Just out of interest How much is it roughly for the Ultrasonic carb cleaning?

[darrenc]

Will let you know tomorrow, hopefully they wont have my pants down 

[bandit]

Hopefully it's just the plugs then.

[darrenc]

It's both, plugs and cars gunked up, guess thats because the previous owner had it sat for month and months on end with very little to no petrol in the tank and now i have the bike and have been out on it its sucked said crap through and generally made the bike a little poorly, all in all a new set of plugs and the carbs cleaned and balanced will be a peace of mind for me as i will be relying on this as my commuter for my new job in two weeks time

[YamFazFan]

Just out of interest How much is it roughly for the Ultrasonic carb cleaning?

When I had my carbs ultrasonically cleaned, along with a new set of spark plugs it came to a total of £187:58

That was 3 hours labour + £26:32 for the plugs + 2 'sundries' at £2 each (whatever they were?! ) & £31:26 VAT.

It felt like riding a brand new bike home that day, so I was well chuffed with the result.

Hope you have a similar outcome darrenc.

[darrenc]

Garage called, £120 all in, new plugs, carbs ultrasonically cleaned and balanced, can't wait to pick it up

[Fazer99]

Garage called, £120 all in, new plugs, carbs ultrasonically cleaned and balanced, can't wait to pick it up

Hope it's sorted the problem.

What garage did you take it to? as I'm thinking of getting mine done and most of the garages near me are quoting around the £200+ mark and I don't really want to shell out that kind of dosh.

[darrenc]

Here's the address 30 W Parade, Halifax HX1 2TE

[darrenc]

They are called Grizzlies motorcycles

[Fazer99]

Here's the address 30 W Parade, Halifax HX1 2TE

They are called Grizzlies motorcycles

 

[Fazer99]

Here's the address 30 W Parade, Halifax HX1 2TE

They are called Grizzlies motorcycles

 

Dam it! a tad too far away from my location. Would be a nice ride though 

[YamFazFan]

Garage called, £120 all in, new plugs, carbs ultrasonically cleaned and balanced, can't wait to pick it up

That's a great price.

How's it running now?.

[darrenc]

Firing on all four cylinders now, I just need to get used to a screaming 600 again, I keep expecting it to pull me away in any gear like my bandit 1250 did just to be kangarood around a bit haha, engine sounds normal again and it pulls good, all in all I'm happy, the throttle response still isn't as crisp as I would like though, when I compare it back to when I had a hornet 600 the throttle was very responsive and crisp on that. Should o check the tps again now the carbs have been cleaned and balanced and I have new plugs in?

[daviee]

may as well check it it dont take long and easy to adjust mine is very crisp off the throttle and  pulls like a train

[darrenc]

OK so checked tps today, started at 5000 then went up to 10000. So I turned ignition off and back on and unplugged and plugged in the tps again and now it says 10000 no matter how much I adjust I can't get it to 5000. Any suggestions? Not only that but bike seems to be running like shit again. I'm getting truly fucked of with it now to be honest.

[bandit]

Have you seen this vid, you only need to follow the TPS setup. Hope it helps.

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http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,91.msg224808.html#msg224808

[darrenc]

Yep tried all that. Do I need to maybe go for a long ride then try again? Or maybe disconnect battery for a while and then connect and try again?

[bandit]

Just added a link to the bottom of my previous post which is in text, scroll up to Andrews post follow 2-6, did the bike run o.k before you touched the TPS,taking the bike for a run won't make any difference,check also your idle speed is around 1250rpm.     

[darrenc]

My idle speed is probably just under 1000 guessing I need to adjust that then as well before I check the tps again.