Trump or Clinton - The final countdown

[tommyardin]

You would not want to be a Muslim living in the States right now.
My heart goes out to them, they contribute so much in the States as they do here in the U.K.
Our NHS along with many many other sectors of business and commerce would not stand without their input and skill base and I am absolutely convinced that the USA is no different.
As an earlier contributor to this post commented    fuck you trump. I would not give him a capital letter let alone Capital Hill

The good news Tommy is that there's now guaranteed work for all US of A bricklayers on the Mexican wall! Yee Haa!

Seriously though the man is a greedy businessman who give not a fuck about anyone other than himself and his family.It really was a vote of dissatisfaction, disillusioned people stamping their feet and voting against the policies of a government that cares not one jot or tittle about the underdog or the have-nots, its all about feathering your own nest and clambering over one another trying to get to the top of the ladder.

Reminds me of the story about the factory owner who was as mean as hell to his workers, he paid them the minimum wage and if they did overtime it was on flat rate, he lorded it over them by threatening dismissal for minor things and they went to work in fear and dread, and the factory owner continued to increase in wealth. Well he died, but, his son insisted that all the workers went to his funeral so that there would be a large turn out for his church service which they duly went to.'Afterwards a couple of workers were chatting and one said to the other 'He was a mean man and a very unhappy man as well, always penny pinching and miserly but he was certainly loaded, I wonder how much he left' the other guy turned to him and said 'All of it' and for me those words are so powerful. One of the foccers on here (I don't recall who it is) has a strap-line at the bottom of all his posts 'Don't die with fun in the bank' Tis true you certainly bring nothing into this world and you will certainly take nothing out.
Have fun and be generous to those around you, there is a lot of poverty in the world and people dying for lack of a few quids worth on food or medicines.   I will now stand down from the pulpit.  

[darrsi]

You would not want to be a Muslim living in the States right now.
My heart goes out to them, they contribute so much in the States as they do here in the U.K.
Our NHS along with many many other sectors of business and commerce would not stand without their input and skill base and I am absolutely convinced that the USA is no different.
As an earlier contributor to this post commented    fuck you trump. I would not give him a capital letter let alone Capital Hill

The good news Tommy is that there's now guaranteed work for all US of A bricklayers on the Mexican wall! Yee Haa!

Seriously though the man is a greedy businessman who give not a fuck about anyone other than himself and his family.It really was a vote of dissatisfaction, disillusioned people stamping their feet and voting against the policies of a government that cares not one jot or tittle about the underdog or the have-nots, its all about feathering your own nest and clambering over one another trying to get to the top of the ladder.

Reminds me of the story about the factory owner who was as mean as hell to his workers, he paid them the minimum wage and if they did overtime it was on flat rate, he lorded it over them by threatening dismissal for minor things and they went to work in fear and dread, and the factory owner continued to increase in wealth. Well he died, but, his son insisted that all the workers went to his funeral so that there would be a large turn out for his church service which they duly went to.'Afterwards a couple of workers were chatting and one said to the other 'He was a mean man and a very unhappy man as well, always penny pinching and miserly but he was certainly loaded, I wonder how much he left' the other guy turned to him and said 'All of it' and for me those words are so powerful. One of the foccers on here (I don't recall who it is) has a strap-line at the bottom of all his posts 'Don't die with fun in the bank' Tis true you certainly bring nothing into this world and you will certainly take nothing out.
Have fun and be generous to those around you, there is a lot of poverty in the world and people dying for lack of a few quids worth on food or medicines.   I will now stand down from the pulpit.

Is there such a thing as a "greedy" businessman?
Isn't that just a good businessman?


Actually, i watched the film War Dogs the other day, if you want to see someone's downfall due to pure greed this is a film to see, and it's a remarkable true story as well. Certainly worth a look.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2005151/?ref_=nv_sr_1

[pilninggas]

You would not want to be a Muslim living in the States right now.
My heart goes out to them, they contribute so much in the States as they do here in the U.K.
Our NHS along with many many other sectors of business and commerce would not stand without their input and skill base and I am absolutely convinced that the USA is no different.
As an earlier contributor to this post commented    fuck you trump. I would not give him a capital letter let alone Capital Hill

The good news Tommy is that there's now guaranteed work for all US of A bricklayers on the Mexican wall! Yee Haa!

Seriously though the man is a greedy businessman who give not a fuck about anyone other than himself and his family.It really was a vote of dissatisfaction, disillusioned people stamping their feet and voting against the policies of a government that cares not one jot or tittle about the underdog or the have-nots, its all about feathering your own nest and clambering over one another trying to get to the top of the ladder.

Reminds me of the story about the factory owner who was as mean as hell to his workers, he paid them the minimum wage and if they did overtime it was on flat rate, he lorded it over them by threatening dismissal for minor things and they went to work in fear and dread, and the factory owner continued to increase in wealth. Well he died, but, his son insisted that all the workers went to his funeral so that there would be a large turn out for his church service which they duly went to.'Afterwards a couple of workers were chatting and one said to the other 'He was a mean man and a very unhappy man as well, always penny pinching and miserly but he was certainly loaded, I wonder how much he left' the other guy turned to him and said 'All of it' and for me those words are so powerful. One of the foccers on here (I don't recall who it is) has a strap-line at the bottom of all his posts 'Don't die with fun in the bank' Tis true you certainly bring nothing into this world and you will certainly take nothing out.
Have fun and be generous to those around you, there is a lot of poverty in the world and people dying for lack of a few quids worth on food or medicines.   I will now stand down from the pulpit.

And Hillary isn't 'greedy'?

This is a couple who've made millions publishing their memoirs, but when up before congress say 'i can't remember'.

The democrats are rotten to the core. Michelle Obama decided after seeeing Jamie Oliver to see if she could improve kids school meals. All was going well until lobbiest for the trade stumped up $20m and then she suddenly pronounced all was well with school meals and moved on to some other fad.

[bigbluebear]

[Freck]

Heard on the radio this morning, they're now calling the US Trumpton, which made me chuckle. 

[fazersharp]

Another placard I saw was, Mein Trumph

[Fazerider]

I guess we are going to have to endure months and months of moaning about the result as per 'Brexit'

Probably, and it's not going to achieve anything. But more people voted for Clinton than Trump so there's some justification for complaining.

[celticdog]

    All these minorities have had their day, Women play the race card, Homos play the gay card, ethnics play the race card, time for all white middle aged discriminating men to play . . . The Trump Card! 

[fazersharp]

    All these minorities have had their day, Women play the GENDER card, Homos play the gay card, ethnics play the race card, time for all white middle aged discriminating men to play . . . The Trump Card! 

Fixed that for you
and  well done - like it. was it all your own work.

Look in any local council publication booklet about their services and you will not see a picture of a 25-50 year old white male

[YamFazFan]

I guess we are going to have to endure months and months of moaning about the result as per 'Brexit'

Probably, and it's not going to achieve anything. But more people voted for Clinton than Trump so there's some justification for complaining.

Surely they knew how the system worked before they participated in it?.

I bet they wouldn't be complaining if the result had gone their way by the same figures .

It's a bit like 'Brexit'. Lots of Remoaners are saying that it was too close a result to decide such an important issue.

Would they still be saying that if remain had won by the same majority as leave? .

[pilninggas]

I guess we are going to have to endure months and months of moaning about the result as per 'Brexit'

Probably, and it's not going to achieve anything. But more people voted for Clinton than Trump so there's some justification for complaining.

Surely they knew how the system worked before they participated in it?.

I bet they wouldn't be complaining if the result had gone their way by the same figures .

It's a bit like 'Brexit'. Lots of Remoaners are saying that it was too close a result to decide such an important issue.

Would they still be saying that if remain had won by the same majority as leave? .

Also when the Dumbocrats had their 2008 primaries she got more votes than Obama, but they stuck to their collegiate system and Obama was their candidate. If it suited them then, then the similar college system shouldn't be a problem now.

I pity any poor fool who throws their toys out of the pram, when they don't get their way. Most people grew out of that at 3 years old.

[tommyardin]

I guess we are going to have to endure months and months of moaning about the result as per 'Brexit'

Probably, and it's not going to achieve anything. But more people voted for Clinton than Trump so there's some justification for complaining.

Surely they knew how the system worked before they participated in it?.

I bet they wouldn't be complaining if the result had gone their way by the same figures .

It's a bit like 'Brexit'. Lots of Remoaners are saying that it was too close a result to decide such an important issue.

Would they still be saying that if remain had won by the same majority as leave? .

Good point

[tommyardin]

he he he

[robbo]

At least Trump won't pussy foot around all this politically correct crap.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

At least Trump won't pussy foot around all this politically correct crap.

Indeed not, he'll just go and grab some.

[pilninggas]

At least Trump won't pussy foot around all this politically correct crap.

The middle ground is what decent honest people want, not special treatment or extra spend on the group-of-the-day, no special rights for certain ethnicities, gender or religion, no brutality of those groups either. So not the lefty crybaby reactionary politics of the 'socialist' parties and not the religious zealotry of africa-arabia. Oh and an acceptance of the will of the majority. Not difficult is it?

[VNA - BMW Wank]

The democrats are rotten to the core. Michelle Obama decided after seeeing Jamie Oliver to see if she could improve kids school meals. All was going well until lobbiest for the trade stumped up $20m and then she suddenly pronounced all was well with school meals and moved on to some other fad.

Would that be the Michelle Obama-approved Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act (HHFKA) - increased portions of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, and limited the number of calories in school breakfast and lunch.  Signed into law 2010.

[VNA - BMW Wank]

 Perhaps the Democrats problem is the same as that of the Labour party.
 
 The people wanted Bernie, the party wanted Hillary. 
 
The passion and the policy was with Bernie, the convention and establishment with Hillary.
The party got what they wanted.
The party lost the election. 

The members elect overwhelmingly Jeremy, the MP’s attack and undermine him.  The MP’s scheme and successfully oust him, the members re-elect him, the MP’s still don’t get it.
Labour can’t win an election.

Currently we have a PM who was a quiet, nae almost silent ‘remainer’ (she had been waiting for this opportunity for years), now she is an outspoken enthusiastic dictatorial hard line Brexitor.

Boris Johnston, a key leader in the Brexit campaign, was playing the same game as Teresa May (in his usual clumsy manner).  Boris was a remainer, but he decided to campaign to leave.  To do so suited his political ambitions.
Our country is being led by narcissistic fools.

So Brexit plus plus plus.  Yup the USA has had it’s Brexit moment.
It’s early days, but I suspect soon all will see that the emperor has no clothes.

But will we? 
 

[fazersharp]

Perhaps the Democrats problem is the same as that of the Labour party.
 
 The people wanted Bernie, the party wanted Hillary. 
 
The passion and the policy was with Bernie, the convention and establishment with Hillary.
The party got what they wanted.
The party lost the election. 

The members elect overwhelmingly Jeremy, the MP’s attack and undermine him.  The MP’s scheme and successfully oust him, the members re-elect him, the MP’s still don’t get it.
Labour can’t win an election.

Currently we have a PM who was a quiet, nae almost silent ‘remainer’ (she had been waiting for this opportunity for years), now she is an outspoken enthusiastic dictatorial hard line Brexitor.

Boris Johnston, a key leader in the Brexit campaign, was playing the same game as Teresa May (in his usual clumsy manner).  Boris was a remainer, but he decided to campaign to leave.  To do so suited his political ambitions.
Our country is being led by narcissistic fools.

So Brexit plus plus plus.  Yup the USA has had it’s Brexit moment.
It’s early days, but I suspect soon all will see that the emperor has no clothes.

But will we? 
 

Just read that Trump is going to invade scotland then deport all the scotts to Mexico and turn scotland into one giant golf course.

[pilninggas]

The democrats are rotten to the core. Michelle Obama decided after seeeing Jamie Oliver to see if she could improve kids school meals. All was going well until lobbiest for the trade stumped up $20m and then she suddenly pronounced all was well with school meals and moved on to some other fad.

Would that be the Michelle Obama-approved Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act (HHFKA) - increased portions of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, and limited the number of calories in school breakfast and lunch.  Signed into law 2010.

Yeh, that's the one: the one that got watered down, due to lobbying. Also the one that's improved food in rural settings and should be noted as a success, but led to increased obesity in innercity schools, which is causing massive concern (because the lobbiest got to keep the vending machines etc).

[VNA - BMW Wank]

Yeh, that's the one: the one that got watered down, due to lobbying. Also the one that's improved food in rural settings and should be noted as a success, but led to increased obesity in innercity schools, which is causing massive concern (because the lobbiest got to keep the vending machines etc).

Yup watered down by congress.  There are fears that congress will now refuse to reauthorize it;

http://grist.org/politics/congress-just-missed-a-chance-to-help-hungry-kids-heres-what-happened/

Fazersharp,

Just read that Trump is going to invade scotland then deport all the scotts to Mexico and turn scotland into one giant golf course.

An exaggeration I believe, however,

  Rumours are abound that Navy Seals have landed on the Menie Estate in Aberdeenshire and objectors to The Donald’s golf course are to be liquidated.  Wee Eck is currently in hiding, possibly in Bonnie Prince Charlie’s Cave.