Author Topic: Its in my blood (Read 6240 times)

fazersharp · « **on:** 03 April 2016, 11:11:32 pm »

Here is my mum and dad on one of my Grandads bikes.
Does anyone know what bike it is, I dont.
Can I see vincent on the tank - but what cc ?

Deefer666 · « **Reply #1 on:** 03 April 2016, 11:19:15 pm »

I don't think that's a Vincent, the swing arm arrangement is all wrong. I thought (and I am by no means an expert on brit bikes) had swing arms that were monoshock direct linkage like the RD350. Looks more like a Norton to me.

fazersharp · « **Reply #2 on:** 03 April 2016, 11:34:32 pm »

Its frustrating I just cant make out whats on the tank. In the family I know that 1000cc was mentioned - whether the cc has morphed as it was passed down I dont know. And if it was that bike I dont know eitrher.
perhaps a date would help which is between 1945 and 1954--- ish

Deefer666 · « **Reply #3 on:** 03 April 2016, 11:52:09 pm »

Vincents were a v twin or a sloping single, that looks to be an upright engine. That would more than likely make it a 500/650cc at the biggest. But looking closely at the engine I would have said that what you have there is a Norton model 50 (350cc) which would be mid 50s the suspension set up is too late to be 40s

celticdog · « **Reply #4 on:** 03 April 2016, 11:57:58 pm »

It could be a Vincent Viscount going by the rear suspension, beautiful pic and beautiful bike fazersharp, thanks for sharing

Deefer666 · « **Reply #5 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:03:28 am »

Not a Viscount, the engine is wrong. That's an upright single the Viscount was a v twin. We need an old duffer to tell us what it is as it's more than a bit before my time

dazza · « **Reply #6 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:23:11 am »

An old duffer you say..... Red will know

fazersharp · « **Reply #7 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:49:58 am »

Is the fish tail exhaust a clue at all ?

fazersharp · « **Reply #8 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:56:41 am »

Just googled norton model 50 and it doesn't look like that, the 50 has a slightly angled rear shock but my picture shows almost upright shocks, also the norton seems to have a panel section on the tank like a knee grip section, also the tank in my picture looks higher and slopes down sharply whereas the norton is flatter, and the headlight mount looks different.
It would be really interesting to find out what the bike was.

Red Ceri · « **Reply #9 on:** 04 April 2016, 01:15:29 am »

I'm not as much of an old fart as Red98 but I think it is either and AJS model 18 or Matchless G80, I think the long push rod tubes give it away

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esetest · « **Reply #10 on:** 04 April 2016, 05:52:12 am »

Matchless 350 perhaps.

darrsi · « **Reply #11 on:** 04 April 2016, 06:35:08 am »

Matchless 350 is certainly looking favourite i think.
Strange thing is the more i looked at them they all had very slight differences, as if they've been personalized/customized, none really looked identical.
The one in your picture for instance has a fairing, which it would seem was quite rare.

Can't find much about the number plate, other than it was first registered in Oxford.

red98 · « **Reply #12 on:** 04 April 2016, 06:51:17 am »

...old duffer,cheeky foccers

iam with red ceri...AJS 18....matchless comes a close second. great piccie

Dave48 · « **Reply #13 on:** 04 April 2016, 07:55:20 am »

The registration sequence "SWL" was issued by Oxford starting in April 1952 so that should help with the date.

darrsi · « **Reply #14 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:25:16 pm »

Quote from: red98 on 04 April 2016, 06:51:17 am

...old duffer,cheeky foccers

iam with red ceri...AJS 18....matchless comes a close second. great piccie

Never realised how much alike the AJS and the Matchless look, they're almost identical.

fazersharp · « **Reply #15 on:** 04 April 2016, 12:53:06 pm »

WELL DONE CHAPS

Did some googling on AJS model 18 Jampot single and overlay a photo onto my old one almost a perfect fit after a little distortion the get the perspective right.
I think that Grandad was a major fettler so I wouldnt be surprised if he made a fairing and the screen was from something else and also looks like he made the fishtail "end can"

darrsi · « **Reply #16 on:** 04 April 2016, 06:16:54 pm »

The rear shock is the same as the Matchless.

fazersharp · « **Reply #17 on:** 04 April 2016, 06:42:29 pm »

Im pretty sure he had many different bikes over the years and wouldn't be surprised if he fitted Matchless shocks if the were better for 2 up. And he has fitted extra lights.
We think we are being all cleaver fitting r6 shocks to our bikes when people have been doing it for 60+ years

esetest · « **Reply #18 on:** 04 April 2016, 08:45:19 pm »

My dad had a Matchless 350 and 500 , i will see if i can get a picture .

Rob R · « **Reply #19 on:** 04 April 2016, 09:43:16 pm »

Jampot suspension dead giveaway- AJS/Matchless.

chaz · « **Reply #20 on:** 05 April 2016, 04:44:14 pm »

I thought AJS/ Matchless as soon as I saw the "jam pots" AJS was sold in 1931 and was used Matchless and AMC which held other names like James, Francis Barnnett etc, AJS/Matchless were the same bikes with different tanks, seats, pipes etc.
I owned a few of the singles 250s 350s and 500s these went from £5 upwards in the 60's (a weeks wage when I started working age 15) I also had a 650cc twin in the 70s.

bri h · « **Reply #21 on:** 06 April 2016, 08:22:30 am »

I can feel a trip down to Sammy Millars comming on

sc0ttie · « **Reply #22 on:** 06 April 2016, 03:01:38 pm »

Nice pic. My mum used to go on the back of her cousins bike, not sure what bike it is. My mum is in the rider seat her friend is pillion of this pic.

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mum n her m8 pam on mbike2

lew600fazer · « **Reply #23 on:** 06 April 2016, 06:21:22 pm »

My guess is a tiger 90 350cc twin, and an Isetta bubble car BMW engined

Rob R · « **Reply #24 on:** 06 April 2016, 09:35:11 pm »

My Velocette, just moved a few feet so you can't see the oil leak.